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Re: Average adult will spend 34 years of their life staring at screens

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Post by prawn »

originalbryan2 wrote: post #269
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I also dont like how people put sunscreen on the kids almost every time they go out. I live in Australia, so you absolutely do want to protect your skin, but heading to the park for an hour doesn't need sunscreen every time. 2 generations ago it was common to literally lie in the sun for hours putting coconut oil on your skin to increase tanning. And yes they did have higher skin cancer rates but there is a fair gap…

I'm not sure what to think about that. I live in CO and people here that don't sunscreen are so much more damaged than others I know in different states. It's drastically obvious. So I sunscreen my kids like crazy. I keep thinking that I'm at least giving their adult selves the option to look 50 at age 35 if they decide to quit using sunscreen religiously. Unsure if this is the best approach. Their doctor loves it th…

I'm in Australia and have an annual skin check. The doctor advises adults to use a moisturiser with sunscreen component as a daily default, especially anyone with fair hair. My wife tends to do this.

The doctor has mentioned in the past that 60+ year old males who've worked farms or building sites their entire lives have a 35%+ strike rate on finding a cancerous mole when they come in for a check.

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Post by darepublic »

ajmurmann wrote: post #214
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Meanwhile we put 5-6 year olds in kindergarten classrooms with UV-blocking windows all day, for about 9 months during the part of the year with the least sunlight available, and we've cut recess time down to almost nothing, and schools increasingly don't send kids outside if the weather's anything other than perfect. At my kids' school they don't even have indoor recess if they keep them in! They just watch a damn mo…

I think it's all a side effect of the treadmill that society is putting everyone on. Between globalization and automation there are fewer good jobs that more people are competing for. Either you end up with what used to be a lot of money or way too little. Till you "made it" you are constantly at risk at slipping off the treadmill and into the "way too little" group. Especially in the US. May this be reality or not,…

I guess but I feel like the schooling they get is largely bogus anyhow especially in elementary school and nothing I couldn't fix by just tutoring them a bit at home

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Post by Arbalest »

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Your statement does not make clear whether you're making a positive assertion about the mechanism of myopia, or whether you're making an assertion about some other potential eye condition. If you are making a positive assertion about the mechanism about myopia, then you are directly contradicting the article, which states the mechanism is not clear. While it may be the case that the article is misrepresenting the sci…

I urge you take this seriously. It's frustrating that more people don't understand this topic, but I can't blame you for your ignorance, because you probably only learn from articles like these. Google for myopia control and start learning.

I'm looking at it entirely from an academic point of view. I personally have hyperopia, so a bit of added myopia might actually help. As distinct from presbyopia, which is different again.

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Post by timc3 »

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We let ours play outside plenty, and there are quite a few other kids out. Does seem to be neighborhood-dependent, though, all kinda have their own culture. Our current one's less free-range than the last, which had big ol' gangs of kids with large age-ranges roaming around, and was great. We are fairly worried about 1) eventually having some kind of encounter with child protective services—which will likely end up f…

> Odds very low they'll all make it to 18 without at least one broken bone. I consider broken bones to be an integral part of childhood. Well, for boys anyway. If you make it to 18 without a broken bone, you probably should have spent more time outside.

No broken bones here before 18, I grew up on a farm, had access to many machines (bikes, quads, tractors, cars, go karts). Spent huge amounts of time outside and liked to try more and more dangerous things partly due to be somewhat isolated, some of which would have done more than just broken a bone.

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Post by jakear »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #266
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Meanwhile we put 5-6 year olds in kindergarten classrooms with UV-blocking windows all day, for about 9 months during the part of the year with the least sunlight available, and we've cut recess time down to almost nothing, and schools increasingly don't send kids outside if the weather's anything other than perfect. At my kids' school they don't even have indoor recess if they keep them in! They just watch a damn mo…

> Then consider that they're giving a bunch of them nearsightedness on top of If it's any consolation, the drawbacks of myopia are fairly negligible. This is one reason there's not a lot of effort expended to prevent it.

I actually enjoy it. I’m at a point where I could get laser correction, but I’ve found that I value being able to remove my glasses and quite literally de-focus too much.

Re: Average adult will spend 34 years of their life staring at screens

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Post by nmfisher »

timc3 wrote: post #285
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> Odds very low they'll all make it to 18 without at least one broken bone. I consider broken bones to be an integral part of childhood. Well, for boys anyway. If you make it to 18 without a broken bone, you probably should have spent more time outside.

No broken bones here before 18, I grew up on a farm, had access to many machines (bikes, quads, tractors, cars, go karts). Spent huge amounts of time outside and liked to try more and more dangerous things partly due to be somewhat isolated, some of which would have done more than just broken a bone.

There's always exceptions to every rule. That's why I said "probably".

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Post by nmfisher »

craigching wrote: post #276
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> Odds very low they'll all make it to 18 without at least one broken bone. I consider broken bones to be an integral part of childhood. Well, for boys anyway. If you make it to 18 without a broken bone, you probably should have spent more time outside.

I’m sure you’re making a general statement, but breaking a bone is pretty traumatic and the complications can be quite serious. I hope my kids never experience a broken bone. That said, I spent my childhood outside and never broke a bone myself, but my brother did and ended up having to wear orthotics the rest of his life and routinely experiences discomfort as a result. So, my advice, don’t limit your kids, but teac…

> EDIT: Your comment about boys breaking bones more than girls is ridiculous, as a parent with a daughter who loves risk taking, I can assure you it’s not a boy vs girl problem.

"The lifetime risk of sustaining a fracture in childhood is approximately 42%-64% in boys and 27%-40% in girls, with remarkable variation in the estimates worldwide [1-4]. While fractures more often occur in males, girls usually sustain fractures at a younger age compared to boys"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2987399/

Re: Average adult will spend 34 years of their life staring at screens

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Post by nmfisher »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #274
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> Odds very low they'll all make it to 18 without at least one broken bone. I consider broken bones to be an integral part of childhood. Well, for boys anyway. If you make it to 18 without a broken bone, you probably should have spent more time outside.

I haven’t broken any bones. My parents were up and coming immigrants with their own business, but not successful enough to afford health insurance (pre ACA, but not post ACA either), and there weren’t poor enough for Medicaid. So my dad was clear to me that any injuries could cause us to have medical expenses that would derail us and my younger sibling’s future as well as the aging grandparents my parents were taking…

And don't you think that's a horrible situation to be in?

It's completely foreign to me that there exists a first-world country where you need to bar your child from certain activities solely due to concerns over potential medical costs.

That's not a criticism of your parents - their decision was completely logical in the circumstances. It's just a fundamental flaw in the US system.

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