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U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

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Re: U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

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Post by DevX101 »

programmertote wrote: post #24
DevX101 wrote: post #19

The whole escape was likely coordinated by Ghosn's wife who it seems passed the Jeff Bezos test. Commenting on what he looked for in a wife, Bezos once said in an interview "The number one criterion was that I wanted a woman who could get me out of a Third World prison"

Could you explain what the Jeff Bezos test mean? I am trying to understand your sentence "The whole escape was likely coordinated by Ghosn's wife who it seems passed the Jeff Bezos test."

Here's the original interview [1]. He was trying to explain that he was looking for a wife that was resourceful. But since explaining what he meant by 'resourceful' was difficult he gave the example that his ideal wife should be able to get him out of prison in another country.

[1] https://www.wired.com/1999/03/bezos-3/

Re: U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

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Post by speg »

afwaller wrote: post #21
DevX101 wrote: post #19

The whole escape was likely coordinated by Ghosn's wife who it seems passed the Jeff Bezos test. Commenting on what he looked for in a wife, Bezos once said in an interview "The number one criterion was that I wanted a woman who could get me out of a Third World prison"

Japan is a first world country.

If they’re willing to get him out of a third world country, surely they’d be willing to do the same from a first world country.

Re: U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

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Post by kthxbye123 »

redstripe wrote: post #20

Is leaving a country really that hard if you have a little money? Seems like something you should be able to do without the assistance of green berets unless you're in a movie. A country like Japan must have: 1. Dozens of private jets leaving it's airspace daily. 2. Hundreds of fishing boats leaving it territorial waters daily.

I think it becomes more difficult when you are an extremely high profile prisoner like Ghosn.

Re: U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

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Post by Cyph0n »

DevX101 wrote: post #31
programmertote wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you explain what the Jeff Bezos test mean? I am trying to understand your sentence "The whole escape was likely coordinated by Ghosn's wife who it seems passed the Jeff Bezos test."

Here's the original interview [1]. He was trying to explain that he was looking for a wife that was resourceful. But since explaining what he meant by 'resourceful' was difficult he gave the example that his ideal wife should be able to get him out of prison in another country. [1] https://www.wired.com/1999/03/bezos-3/

Interesting stuff, thanks for linking!

Re: U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

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Post by whyhow »

DevX101 wrote: post #31
programmertote wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you explain what the Jeff Bezos test mean? I am trying to understand your sentence "The whole escape was likely coordinated by Ghosn's wife who it seems passed the Jeff Bezos test."

Here's the original interview [1]. He was trying to explain that he was looking for a wife that was resourceful. But since explaining what he meant by 'resourceful' was difficult he gave the example that his ideal wife should be able to get him out of prison in another country. [1] https://www.wired.com/1999/03/bezos-3/

Anyone know your typical steps for this process? I guess your first step is to contact your embassy, then look for a local lawyer, then what comes next?

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Post by ilamont »

Can't read the article, but IIRC the elder Taylor's wife is from Lebanon and he spent a lot of time there, even though he is from the Boston area and has a home here.

Can't believe his lawyers didn't recommend he go to Lebanon sooner, considering the amount of information made public about this case. Japan and U.S. have extradition treaties, and they must have been aware of the risk.

Re: U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

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Post by freeopinion »

ekianjo wrote: post #9
ProAm wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's responsible to pay for good journalism.

How can you judge it's good if you can't read more than 5 lines?

Do you make the same argument for movies? books? cars?

Re: U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

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Post by _jal »

smcl wrote: post #30
jcampbell1 wrote: post #17

It will be interesting to follow if they have enough money to fight the extradition in court. The international press loves to make Japanese criminal courts sound like a 12th century madhouse at every opportunity.

I haven't read a great deal about them in the papers, but what I have read is that they have a frighteningly high conviction rate - meaning that either - the police are really good at finding the perpetrators of crimes - the state are really careful about only taking cases to trial they are extremely confident they can win - ... or that simply being tried in court sufficient for convince everyone judges and/or juries…

The US Federal conviction rate is only a few percentage points lower. And as a US citizen, I can assure you it is not the first in our case.

Re: U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

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Post by pnw_hazor »

afwaller wrote: post #21
DevX101 wrote: post #19

The whole escape was likely coordinated by Ghosn's wife who it seems passed the Jeff Bezos test. Commenting on what he looked for in a wife, Bezos once said in an interview "The number one criterion was that I wanted a woman who could get me out of a Third World prison"

Japan is a first world country.

The Japanese criminal justice system is not up to first world standards.

"The litany of violations that commonly take place while the detainee is in daiyou kangoku would befit places such as China, Turkey, or the Israeli occupied West Bank. Detainees are subject to extremely long (e.g. over twelve hours) questioning sessions, designed to wear them down. Sleep deprivation is common, as is the deprivation of adequate food, and suspects are often made to stand in uncomfortable positions for hours on end. Intimidation is the order of the day, with techniques such as repeated screaming in the detainee’s ears, and, though rarer, beatings have also been known to take place."

https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/06/02/japans-authoritarian...

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