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U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

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Re: U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

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The whole escape was likely coordinated by Ghosn's wife who it seems passed the Jeff Bezos test. Commenting on what he looked for in a wife, Bezos once said in an interview "The number one criterion was that I wanted a woman who could get me out of a Third World prison"

Japan is a first world country.

Re: U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

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post #19

The whole escape was likely coordinated by Ghosn's wife who it seems passed the Jeff Bezos test. Commenting on what he looked for in a wife, Bezos once said in an interview "The number one criterion was that I wanted a woman who could get me out of a Third World prison"

Japan is a first world country.

All the more impressive!

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#23

It will be interesting to follow if they have enough money to fight the extradition in court. The international press loves to make Japanese criminal courts sound like a 12th century madhouse at every opportunity.

I heard the reason for the high conviction rate is because they only pursue cases that they think they have a 100% of winning.

Which I think is a really messed up thing. The police exist to serve the public, not to “win” cases. The fact that the public thinks “losing” a case is a bad thing is crazy.

While you could argue that “losing” cases means they need to be replaced with someone who’ll get better evidence, this always leads to putting someone who’ll be “tough on crime” as the DA. And those DAs end up putting a lot of innocent people in prison.

Re: U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

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post #19

The whole escape was likely coordinated by Ghosn's wife who it seems passed the Jeff Bezos test. Commenting on what he looked for in a wife, Bezos once said in an interview "The number one criterion was that I wanted a woman who could get me out of a Third World prison"

Could you explain what the Jeff Bezos test mean? I am trying to understand your sentence "The whole escape was likely coordinated by Ghosn's wife who it seems passed the Jeff Bezos test."

Re: U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

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post #9
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's responsible to pay for good journalism.

How can you judge it's good if you can't read more than 5 lines?

Trust is determined by evaluating the institution. You don't get to ask for a partial refund of your newspaper subscription because you disliked one article.

Re: U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

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Interesting. Japan is famously reluctant to extradite its own citizens, but they did send two to the US last year, so I wonder if somebody pulled strings to get the favor repaid. Although these are only low-level chumps, not Ghosn himself. https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=7d47070e-c949...

> these are only low-level chumps The operation sounds like it would have been unsuccessful without their help. Given they were arrested boarding a commercial flight in Boston, it seems they felt above reproach. This arrest makes it less likely (though not impossible) such expertise will be able to be procured for such purposes in the future.

> This arrest makes it less likely (though not impossible) such expertise will be able to be procured for such purposes in the future.

Eh, it would probably lead to them charging more for such things. How often have such people been arrested? What penalties will them ultimately face? (arrest is one thing, being found guilty and sentenced is another).

The people who worry about wealth inequality do so for this reason. It creates a market for underground services that cost a lot but subvert due process in many ways... the same due process that would get most citizenry in a lot of trouble. It corrupts the system completely.

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If these guys are smart, they would take advantage of the current president and do a full on social media push to get his attention. If orchestrated properly it would almost guarantee they are not extradited.

It checks all the boxes, military, foreign governments, extradition.

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Oof, I clicked and remembered WSJ is paywalled...what's the trick to get around that again?

They have cheap trial periods that you can actually stop and start repeatedly. Of course, if you're a regular reader you should pay for it, but then they should also prevent re-using the trial period over and over. So maybe they don't care.

Re: U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

#29

Interesting. Japan is famously reluctant to extradite its own citizens, but they did send two to the US last year, so I wonder if somebody pulled strings to get the favor repaid. Although these are only low-level chumps, not Ghosn himself. https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=7d47070e-c949...

> these are only low-level chumps The operation sounds like it would have been unsuccessful without their help. Given they were arrested boarding a commercial flight in Boston, it seems they felt above reproach. This arrest makes it less likely (though not impossible) such expertise will be able to be procured for such purposes in the future.

> it seems they felt above reproach

Possibly because of what they’ve done for who in the past and what they know.

Re: U.S. arrests former Green Beret, son, in connection with Ghosn escape from Japan

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It will be interesting to follow if they have enough money to fight the extradition in court. The international press loves to make Japanese criminal courts sound like a 12th century madhouse at every opportunity.

I haven't read a great deal about them in the papers, but what I have read is that they have a frighteningly high conviction rate - meaning that either

- the police are really good at finding the perpetrators of crimes

- the state are really careful about only taking cases to trial they are extremely confident they can win

- ... or that simply being tried in court sufficient for convince everyone judges and/or juries that you're guilty and that it's basically a formality after that point

I've no idea which of these is true, I really hope it's just either of the first two.

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