I still remember that time when Zuck publicly admitted that he was aiming for Facebook to replace the internet, which was clearly promptly scrubbed from the internet (it is one of those regrets that I did not save the video even though I realized it was important, while not realizing we actually had memoryholes already). It seems more than ever that he is well on the way to doing so, as it becomes ever less likely that any kind of relief or resolution will come from captured regulators, let alone captured and bought off legislators. Pretty soon, real competition will be dead, it has little life left in it as is.
Introducing Facebook Shops
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#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the frightening things is when you notice that, as society becomes more dystopian (e.g. more totalitarian, more extremely unequal in the division of wealth etc.), there doesn't develop the strong awareness that it _is_ dystopian. It that the sense of what's normal and acceptable degrades. At best you get this weak sense of a general malaise.
So either people are clueless sheep that don't know better or they simply don't care. The first seems pretty patronizing to me and the latter means we are in minority with our definition of dystopia.
I think they just don't care. I had a look at Marx's ideas of people being in a certain class and engaging in a class struggle, rising up.
But it didn't happen because people are mostly just selfish.
They don't care if they're in a certain "class", they don't care if they're being sold to, they generally don't care if they're being tracked. They just care about being able to do what they want to do.
As long as it doesn't interfere with their life too much (or even if it does, if there's no alternative), they don't do anything about it. And with the modern population, as long as it is extremely easy they will do it.
I am not sure if this is good or bad, or just an inherent part of human nature.
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#253Tangentially related:
>'GrokNet', the AI behind Facebook Shops, looks for body type, skin tone, location, socioeconomic class in photos
https://boingboing.net/2020/05/20/groknet-the-ai-behind-fac....
Is there good reason to be concerned on this level?
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#254Crucial information from Shopify: "Merchants will get control over customization and merchandising for their storefronts inside Facebook and Instagram, while managing their products, inventory, orders, and fulfillment directly from within Shopify." "Consumers will be able to easily find, browse, and buy products through a purpose-built, immersive experience in these apps they use every day. Checkout will be powered b…
> Facebook wants to capture all discovery through FB and Insta directly competing with Amazon and Google Shopping. I don't have a Facebook account. As a result, I cannot "discover" anything on the platform. Facebook continues to become a less popular platform and their name continues to loose value thanks to constant involvement in scandals. I may be a minority, but I suspect I'm part of a growing minority. I can't i…
there was a period when i thought similarly (pretty soon, facebook won't be "cool" anymore) but it came and went. people are complaining more about facebook's disturbing moves, but they're not doing anything about it.
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#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
They might also implement object detection within photos and match things in the photo to products you could buy... on Facebook...
Google could do this with Chrome... They already have the "right click, search google for things looking like this image". All they'd need to do is make the UI more discoverable and make the search results include products, and they'd be $1B up on revenue...
i don't think the "search by image" tool is doing as much computer vision as you think it is -- it seems to mostly match shapes and colors.
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tangentially, I know they mentioned the "adpocolypse" for YouTube but recently it's insane the amount of adverts being shown. It's really putting me off using it. But as you say, mainstream platforms with no competitors seem to get away with it.
I've been youtube pro subscriber for a while. Zero ads, it's heaven. Really transforms the youtube experience.
Ad block also gives zero ads on YouTube.
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#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
So either people are clueless sheep that don't know better or they simply don't care. The first seems pretty patronizing to me and the latter means we are in minority with our definition of dystopia.
I think they just don't care. I had a look at Marx's ideas of people being in a certain class and engaging in a class struggle, rising up. But it didn't happen because people are mostly just selfish. They don't care if they're in a certain "class", they don't care if they're being sold to, they generally don't care if they're being tracked. They just care about being able to do what they want to do. As long as it doe…
"it didn't happen," The russian revolution would like to have a word with you.
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#258Small businesses operated either individually or by less than 10 people. A bunch of customers buy products/services from these businesses. So they need a better way to: Engage with their customers Sell and manage product/service deliveries Target specific customer audience Show products/services availability Whatsapp could be the right solution not facebook apps. Also a combination of Yelp and Facebook/Whatsapp could…
This sounds great in theory, but eventually there will be many businesses paying for the top spot and a standard listing will become irrelevant.
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#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been youtube pro subscriber for a while. Zero ads, it's heaven. Really transforms the youtube experience.
Ad block also gives zero ads on YouTube.
... Without compensating content creators. So unless you want ads baked into videos then premium is the way to go.
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#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Facebook wants to capture all discovery through FB and Insta directly competing with Amazon and Google Shopping. I don't have a Facebook account. As a result, I cannot "discover" anything on the platform. Facebook continues to become a less popular platform and their name continues to loose value thanks to constant involvement in scandals. I may be a minority, but I suspect I'm part of a growing minority. I can't i…
there was a period when i thought similarly (pretty soon, facebook won't be "cool" anymore) but it came and went. people are complaining more about facebook's disturbing moves, but they're not doing anything about it.
I think it's happening. It's just very slow. Most people wont delete their account. They'll just start using it less and less.
Facebook hasn't been "cool" for a long time. It's not a platform most people want to be on. It's just so ubiquitous that many people feel obligated to be on it. Unless that changes, Facebook (the social media site, not the company) will continue to die a very slow death.