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Post by PhilipA »

mrkramer wrote: post #64
jameslevy wrote: post #2

"We’re also working more closely with partners like Shopify, BigCommerce, WooCommerce..." Is Facebook Shops not a direct competitor to Shopify? Or is this just "embrace, extend, and extinguish"?

I don't get it. If you buy something from Facebook Shop does Facebook take a fee or Shopify for example. I'm guessing Facebook is trying to get rid off websites and essentially Google and hoping all discovery happens on Facebook and Instagram. I'm wondering how Facebook Shops is going to impact Shopify,Amazon and Google Shopping in the long term.

They will probably do it for free, and then just limit visibility unless you pay to advertise the products.

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Post by Lio »

dmode wrote: post #164
saadalem wrote: post #117

Small businesses operated either individually or by less than 10 people. A bunch of customers buy products/services from these businesses. So they need a better way to: Engage with their customers Sell and manage product/service deliveries Target specific customer audience Show products/services availability Whatsapp could be the right solution not facebook apps. Also a combination of Yelp and Facebook/Whatsapp could…

This is a great post. But the biggest opportunity here is to build an aggregate SMB platform to take on Amazon. In my local downtown, I see a ton of mom and pop stores, but they don’t get a ton of foot traffic. I sometimes imagine unlocking their inventory that can allow for some inherent advantages like same day pick-up and supporting local businesses

I’ve had similar thoughts.

If I could find out who has what in stock and at what price before I leave the house and if I could reserve it, it would definitely encourage me to shop locally more.

I’m put off by the thought of a wasted trip. The suggestion of “we could order that in for you” is obviously not great either when I can probably order it in faster myself.

I hardly ever browse in a real shop anymore because I feel like I’m waisting their time if I don’t buy something.

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Post by Lio »

buboard wrote: post #192
mrkramer wrote: post #98

Crucial information from Shopify: "Merchants will get control over customization and merchandising for their storefronts inside Facebook and Instagram, while managing their products, inventory, orders, and fulfillment directly from within Shopify." "Consumers will be able to easily find, browse, and buy products through a purpose-built, immersive experience in these apps they use every day. Checkout will be powered b…

FB should be merciful and buy shopify before murdering them

I don’t know. I realise I’m atypical but I don’t use Facebook products.

I won’t shop with sites powered by Facebook so there must be at least some segment of the market that Shopify can still hold.

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Post by nicky0 »

72deluxe wrote: post #209
oblio wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have always thought about what it would take for Whatsapp to lose their place as the dominant chat app and you finally nailed it. Unfortunately, that's not how these things work. I don't know of any mainstream platform that died because of ads. You have to keep in mind the fact that the average person on this site has a total different attitude to technology and its warts than most other people.

Tangentially, I know they mentioned the "adpocolypse" for YouTube but recently it's insane the amount of adverts being shown. It's really putting me off using it. But as you say, mainstream platforms with no competitors seem to get away with it.

I've been youtube pro subscriber for a while. Zero ads, it's heaven. Really transforms the youtube experience.

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Post by andrewl-hn »

72deluxe wrote: post #220
tdrgabi wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Harder to do in the youtube app. You need a pihole server.

I have one of those but I can't seem to block them effectively. I think the advert URLs are not specific to adverts, ie they're the same as normal YouTube videos. Any tips??

On Android there are third-party apps that are not available on Market but are very popular.

Most wrap YT's website, add an Adblocker, and block certain APIs that prevent Picture-in-Picture, background playback, etc.

The small downside is that these apps can't use play services and thus you can't login to leave likes, comments, etc. Though you can use "Share" to open the same video in browser where you can login normally.

Google creates a shadow profile for you in that 3rd-party app, and after a few videos you watch the quickly associate you with your other profiles / shadow profiles. So, in a matter of hours or days YouTube will start recommend you content tailored to you, even though you are not logged it.

Works remarkably well.

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Post by badRNG »

tdrgabi wrote: post #218
JSavageOne wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not just use an adblocker?

Harder to do in the youtube app. You need a pihole server.

XDA Dev team released an Android app called "YouTube Vanced" that is an ad-blocked YouTube app that you sideload (plus a couple of other minor changes like additional themes)

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Post by mtberatwork »

oblio wrote: post #198
phreack wrote: post #184

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I have always thought about what it would take for Whatsapp to lose their place as the dominant chat app and you finally nailed it. If I ever start getting ads or requests for reviews or anything remotely related to someone selling something to me, as a personal message because of automated Facebook tools, I'd get myself and everyone I know off the platform in a matter of seconds. On the other hand, for information r…

> I have always thought about what it would take for Whatsapp to lose their place as the dominant chat app and you finally nailed it. Unfortunately, that's not how these things work. I don't know of any mainstream platform that died because of ads. You have to keep in mind the fact that the average person on this site has a total different attitude to technology and its warts than most other people.

My understanding (from a comment I heard on GCN) is that Strava expanding their subscription model (vs transitioning to an ad-based model) is in part due to their fear of losing users due to ads. But then again, cyclists that use Strava probably have the same attitudes toward technology as HN readers (myself included).

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Post by brabel »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #204
oblio wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have always thought about what it would take for Whatsapp to lose their place as the dominant chat app and you finally nailed it. Unfortunately, that's not how these things work. I don't know of any mainstream platform that died because of ads. You have to keep in mind the fact that the average person on this site has a total different attitude to technology and its warts than most other people.

> I don't know of any mainstream platform that died because of ads. * Traditional television. * Online websites of traditional newspapers - they wouldn’t have moved to paywalling if advertising was working. * MySpace (not directly, but a contributory factor).

Traditional TV died? Not in the countries I've visited recently, as far as I know this may be a US-only thing.
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