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Count Dankula was a big case as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Meechan#Arrest

He was arrested and convicted for literally saying "gas the jews". That is inciting violence, and a very clear case of hate speech.

He was arrested and convicted for making a pug react when he said "Gas the Jews" to make the puppy appear less cute.

I don't think there was any intent for a Pug to start a new holocaust.

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> Free speech doesn't mean everyone is forced to listen to that speech. You are completely right. Free speech does not mean that anyone will force you to listen to Alex Jones or any other nutjob. It means that AJ will have the right to speak and you can ignore him. From the top of my head, let me just list a few of the poeople that were considered crazy and could not initialy find a platform to express their ideas: C…

> You get my point? If have come to the conclusion that you either get why people defend his presence as a price for many advantages or you do not. These are not the people that buy his "man-oil". Some say the smarter ones give in, although that should not be applied on this topic in my opinion. > Free speech doesn't mean everyone is forced to listen to that speech. It is just a personal dislike of Alex Jones, not an…

I hope I won't go too close to breaching the Godwin's law, but there seem to be some analogies to Herschel Grynszpan here. We can always find an outlier that would be a good excuse for an overblown reaction. We can also probably find outliers on the other side of the spectrum, but we choose to ignore them. Conveniently.

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This is a huge changing of the guard play. You have to give credit towards Spotify for this move, and what could signify a pivotal point in changing history.

The fact there is a paying subscription model behind Spotify, I can see a future where all podcasts move towards this platform.

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This is a huge changing of the guard play. You have to give credit towards Spotify for this move, and what could signify a pivotal point in changing history. The fact there is a paying subscription model behind Spotify, I can see a future where all podcasts move towards this platform.

To be clear you don't need to subscribe to Spotify to use it to play podcasts. They don't even play ads.

From their point of view it's presumably a loss-leader that gives them brand awareness.

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I agree with JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship but I disagree with him moving exclusively to spotify for following reasons: 1. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify. 2. Currently, Spotify doesn't have video (except album cover clips wh…

You lost all credibility by putting alex jones and censorship in the same sentence.

You people are so ridiculous, comparing deplatforming racist pseudo science advocates to censorship

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And when upstream service providers cut him off, he can start his own one of those. When payment processors close all his accounts, he can start one of those. Remember, kids, censorship refers to the government and only the government. Stray far enough onto the wrong side of history, and society may voluntarily decide you're an asshole and show you the door. And that'll be on you.

I hate Alex Jones, but I have to agree. There's a difference between being kicked out of a restaurant for being an ass, vs being kicked out of EVERY restaurant on Earth for the rest of your life - without due process. These online services aren't small mom/pop shops that you can just replace and patronize another. They are global near-monopolies that you cannot function without. Google isn't just my search provider -…

I'm skeptical of "kicked out of EVERY restaurant on Earth"

The Daily Stormer is fairly bad as sites go "Jews Howl as Portuguese Move to Shut Down Their Citizenship Scam" typical story - and after various attempts to get rid of them all you have to do to go to the site is google them and click on the link in the wikipedia page.

About the only sites that are really kicked out of all restaurants are paedophila ones and they deserve that and more IMO.

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I agree with JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship but I disagree with him moving exclusively to spotify for following reasons: 1. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify. 2. Currently, Spotify doesn't have video (except album cover clips wh…

Their web player doesn't even work with desktop Safari...

Use another browser. Probably Apple saying "we don't support "obscure" file formats".

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Alex Jones being kicked off those services isn't the same thing. He was spreading major misinformation and targeted harassment at innocent people that were involved in a tragedy. He wasn't "conspired" against. They just told him to go host his hate somewhere else. And stop with these "censorship" BS. Alex Jones has every right to start his own network if he wants and put anything on it. There's nothing stopping him f…

And when upstream service providers cut him off, he can start his own one of those. When payment processors close all his accounts, he can start one of those. Remember, kids, censorship refers to the government and only the government. Stray far enough onto the wrong side of history, and society may voluntarily decide you're an asshole and show you the door. And that'll be on you.

> Stray far enough onto the wrong side of history, and society may voluntarily decide you're an asshole and show you the door. And that'll be on you.

Remember kids, there's no such thing as being an actual arsehole, harassing people and endangering people. It's just that they are people who strayed on "the wrong side of history". My neighbour who's kicking his cat? Not an arsehole.

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You are moving the goalposts by switching from a highly skilled game like basketball to one that is mostly dictated by physiology. There are certainly athletic competitions in which the gap between men and women differs. I also notice you chose a race in which Caster Semenya won. I don't know it that was intentional, but that specific race highlights the ridiculousness and arbitrary nature of a ban on transgender ath…

> You are moving the goalposts by switching from a highly skilled game like basketball to one that is mostly dictated by physiology. There are certainly athletic competitions in which the gap between men and women differs There are no goalposts, but this is just an internet argument for you so I can see why you'd think that. As for Semenya I don't know what the right answer is. Intersex is hard. It's also rare. So I…

Let me leave this moving video here about a "right answer" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP6eZAfO0Yg

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And when upstream service providers cut him off, he can start his own one of those. When payment processors close all his accounts, he can start one of those. Remember, kids, censorship refers to the government and only the government. Stray far enough onto the wrong side of history, and society may voluntarily decide you're an asshole and show you the door. And that'll be on you.

> Stray far enough onto the wrong side of history, and society may voluntarily decide you're an asshole and show you the door. And that'll be on you. Remember kids, there's no such thing as being an actual arsehole, harassing people and endangering people. It's just that they are people who strayed on "the wrong side of history". My neighbour who's kicking his cat? Not an arsehole.

I mean, at some point in history your asshole who’s kicking his cat was probably not seen as an asshole. If only because domesticated cats haven’t always been a thing.
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