Not so much "genuine", but rather celebrity polymath. There are plenty of polymaths who have no interest in fame and fortune, and simply keep to themselves.
This is so true and so overlooked. I think there are a lot more intelligent people, in general, who have absolutely no desire and need to advertise it
The genuine polymath is still one in a million
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Re: The genuine polymath is still one in a million
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> Same goes for Isaac Newton. He’s practically been elevated to godhood for his contributions to calculus and physics. The way British write confuses many people. "Newton is the greatest of the greatest", "Shakespeare is the mos prolific writer that ever lived", ""... British writers love hyperbole. The fact that the writing style aligns with national pride helps to create a positive feedback of "grandiose writing".…
Such excessive writing only occurs amongst very few people, them who feel their job is 'culture'. I've heard far too much of it about shakespeare, and I think it undeserved. He's not that great. Emperor/clothes etc. I've really not heard anything similar about newton though. Don't confuse those very few who surf their own hyperbole with the average brit (I'm one).
What is much harder to argue against is his influence on the English language. Shakespeare introduced, into everyday use, a monumental staggering number of words, phrases, idioms, metaphors, and ideas. And that’s just the text of his work. His influence on the institution of theatre and its role in the development of actors is equally staggering.
The comparison with Newton (and his influences on mathematics and physics) is apt.
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What's the definition of Deep Generalist that you have in mind?
In my main keynote I talk about being in the top 25% of the field across 3 different domains, while also being at an intermediary level in a range of others. In part, that’s to set an achievable first goal - most of the audience are probably already there in 1 or 2 fields, so it’s not insurmountable for them to progress, and hopefully from there they have the success to keep going wide as well as deep. If I had to ad…
A question on my mind is how is "different domains" defined (a loose definition and/or positive and negative examples would be OK):
* Running and swimming?
* Playing violin and singing?
* User Experience designer and sketch artist?
* Neuroscience and machine learning?
* Music and dancing?
* Programming and chess?
* Hardware and software?
* Music and sketching?
* Engineering and medicine?
* Physics and gymnastics?
:-)
Thanks.
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Were these studies inconsistent with a curious mind and the limitations of knowledge at the time? In any research, some avenues of investigation are fruitful and others are not. When people look back on us 300 years from today, they'll likely find many cases of geniuses working on things that seem naive or misguided in retrospect.
You can say the same thing about the limitations nowaadays. Looking back from the future we’ll have learned a lot of things that we are thinking now will be seen as preposterous when more knowledge is covered.
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Such excessive writing only occurs amongst very few people, them who feel their job is 'culture'. I've heard far too much of it about shakespeare, and I think it undeserved. He's not that great. Emperor/clothes etc. I've really not heard anything similar about newton though. Don't confuse those very few who surf their own hyperbole with the average brit (I'm one).
There are loads of people who don’t like Shakespeare (possibly due to being forced to read his plays in school) and that’s fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of him. What is much harder to argue against is his influence on the English language. Shakespeare introduced, into everyday use, a monumental staggering number of words, phrases, idioms, metaphors, and ideas. And that’s just the text of his work. His i…
I'm one of them, but after one of my English teachers decided to bring us to see one of his other plays as a treat (Much Ado about Nothing), I can't help but think it's because schools are obsessed with the bad plays. I've never gone out of my way to read/see other plays, but that one was actually entertaining and I think if it was used instead of Romeo and Juliet & etc, less people would dislike Shakespeare.
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There are loads of people who don’t like Shakespeare (possibly due to being forced to read his plays in school) and that’s fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of him. What is much harder to argue against is his influence on the English language. Shakespeare introduced, into everyday use, a monumental staggering number of words, phrases, idioms, metaphors, and ideas. And that’s just the text of his work. His i…
> There are loads of people who don’t like Shakespeare (possibly due to being forced to read his plays in school) and that’s fine. I'm one of them, but after one of my English teachers decided to bring us to see one of his other plays as a treat ( Much Ado about Nothing ), I can't help but think it's because schools are obsessed with the bad plays. I've never gone out of my way to read/see other plays, but that one w…
I remember the teacher pointing out the cheap sexual innuendos in there (IIRC 'on the prick of noon' was one). In retrospect I find it hypocritical, she only drew our attention to it because it was shakespeare, and she seemed to laud it because it was shakespeare. In any other contexts she'd have dismissed it, but this was shakespeare! So saddo nob jokes ok.
A few years ago I tried to watch titus andronicus (this one, with Famous Actor https://www.amazon.co.uk/Titus-Blu-ray-Import/dp/B00HGGUO70/). I probably rewound[1] every section of speech at least once, and had the subtitles on, to try to understand. Christ what an effort, and for what.
[1] Thank you VLC for your easy 10 second jumping keys, one of mymost used controls ever.
(but glad MAAN worked for you)
Re: The genuine polymath is still one in a million
#67The "problem" is how long it takes to get up to speed in various fields, now that most have decades or centuries of depth. Accelerated learning tech will open the polymath doors again.
Accelerated learning is fascinating because learning today is so inefficient. Combine that with the massive knowledge that accumulates over the years.
Elon Musks said it himself. Along with Solar Energy, Mars colonization, AI, knowledge acquisition needs to be disrupted. Something like bio-technology with transplanted chips.
Reading books is a very old way, and it doesn't scale well. Listening to podcast isn't very efficient either. Gamification has not been effective enough so far.
You can also see it in "Matrix", when training in a virtual world with a karate-training program that interacts directly with the brain. As you do when dreaming, but in an interactive way.
In the "Fifth Element", there's also a scene where Milla Jovovich (an advanced being) learn all Human History in a matter of hours/minutes with accelerated reading/watching the Internet.
I'm sure there are many other examples of people putting "accelerated learning" as one feature of the future.
(And I'm already excited to be there.)