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Linux touchpad: preliminary project funding, survey results

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Re: Linux touchpad: preliminary project funding, survey results

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Post by navanchauhan »

neal_jones wrote: post #124
spacephysics wrote: post #120

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Same, despite the overheating issue with my model, and the copious amount of OS issues with the more recent releases, I’ve yet to find a laptop that comes close to Apple’s track pad. To a point where sometimes I prefer the track pad over a mouse.

You’ve probably already heard about this, but there has been a large discussion about how charging from the traditional left side of 15” (and I believe 16”) MBPs results in heat and fan issues. A lot of people have had improved results just by switching power to the right.

if what you have told me is true, you will have gained my trust

Re: Linux touchpad: preliminary project funding, survey results

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Post by nitrogen »

techntoke wrote: post #49
nitrogen wrote: post #31

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Came here to say the same thing. Every Linux distro release the mouse finds a new way to break -- different acceleration profile, impossibly slow followed by impossibly fast, etc. -- and I have to update my fix_mouse.sh autorun script to scan for whatever the new xinput parameter names are. It's unfortunately distressingly common in software, but especially Linux GUIs, to fix one thing by breaking three others instea…

Never had an issue before. What distro and window manager are you using? I'm running Arch with Sway and no issues whatsoever with the mouse.

Kububtu with a Logitech G500s set to ~2000dpi and a 250Hz or 500Hz report rate. I had similar issues with other DEs and login managers in the past.

I keep meaning to try KDE Neon or switch back to Mint or something, but I have very little desire to mess with my OS these days.

Re: Linux touchpad: preliminary project funding, survey results

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Post by abakker »

spacephysics wrote: post #120
emmelaich wrote: post #116

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The trackpad on Macs is one of the major reasons I stick with Mac laptops.

Same, despite the overheating issue with my model, and the copious amount of OS issues with the more recent releases, I’ve yet to find a laptop that comes close to Apple’s track pad. To a point where sometimes I prefer the track pad over a mouse.

If you have a machine more than a year old, take the bottom cover off and clean the fans. It really helped my 2018 MacBook Pro.

Re: Linux touchpad: preliminary project funding, survey results

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Post by karlding »

navanchauhan wrote: post #141
neal_jones wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’ve probably already heard about this, but there has been a large discussion about how charging from the traditional left side of 15” (and I believe 16”) MBPs results in heat and fan issues. A lot of people have had improved results just by switching power to the right.

if what you have told me is true, you will have gained my trust

This was on HN about a month ago [0].

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22957573

Re: Linux touchpad: preliminary project funding, survey results

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Post by reuben364 »

reuben364 wrote: post #117
K0SM0S wrote: post #106

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OK, I'll bite that sandwich. Can you expand some of these points? I fail to understand (I need an ELI5, first principles) I think I get the premise, EMACs/Jupyter hybrid with ext. prog. lang. (+1 for typed). > By keeping the specification of the components as abstract as possible, one could reinterpret the same code to give a completely different and customizable user experience. Custom UX is my pet peeve, has been f…

So there are sort of several ideas floating in my head. Keep in mind, these are very loose and I am talking way out of my league here. I said lenses, but the more general term is optics (still vague and unsearchable, I know). A certain representation of optics was popularized in Haskell by Edward Kmett partly as a way to solve the record access problem, but they are way more useful then that. Lenses, in a context of…

Replying because its too late to edit EDIT: I'm struggling to find the source connecting lenses to dynamical systems. I might have misremembered, and was pretty tired, so take that with a grain of salt.

Re: Linux touchpad: preliminary project funding, survey results

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Post by bschwindHN »

sandov wrote: post #95

As a touchpad-ignorant person (I have not used Macbook touchpad, so I don't know what I'm missing) Linux touchpad support had always seemed fine to me until distros started using libinput by default. Last time I tried libinput, I couldn't disable acceleration on touchpads. "Flat" acceleration profile still had acceleration.

If you're happy with the current state on linux...don't ever use a macbook trackpad. It'll ruin you.

Re: Linux touchpad: preliminary project funding, survey results

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Post by aloer »

saagarjha wrote: post #105
aloer wrote: post #82

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much much much better: - super smooth. Scrolling and everything just feels right. They do a lot of low level software magic to make that happen. Off topic: If you ever try to reimplement a scroll view on iOS you will see how much effort is needed to make it smooth - even if you have access to all the same APIs - biiiig trackpad. I find this especially important when I have a big external monitor plugged in. I can eas…

I've done some reverse engineering of the macOS Spaces implementation and it is really all the way through the stack; Dock creates animation transactions and everything in WindowServer to make it work. You really need deep integration to have something like that be smooth and work well.

any chance there is a writeup on this anywhere?

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

robrtsql wrote: post #76
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #55

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Damn, for $60 you can get one bangin' mouse to carry with you and problem solved.

I can't use a mouse on my lap, though.

Just out of curiosity, why do you need to do work on your lap? The posture is really bad and unhealthy.

Doesn't anyone own a table for eating where you can use your laptop as well?

I've been owning laptops for 12 years now and never used it on my lap. The only times I saw people use laptops on their laps is on TV.

Re: Linux touchpad: preliminary project funding, survey results

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Post by agapon »

eth0up wrote: post #4

Perhaps the only thing other than a certain leviathan that I loathe in Linux, is the touchpad. I have butchered laptops as a result of touchpad induced madness. I've tried synclient and other tweaks to no sufferable avail. My present laptop has the touchpad removed by pliers. I used the term "madness" sincerely. I think the present situation might be eligible for a place in the wiki for Unethical Human Experimentatio…

By the way, modern touchpads support HID feature reports to disable surface and buttons. Usages 0x57 / 0x58 in the Digitizer page. The Linux driver is aware of those but uses them only to ensure that everything is turned on. I think that it really should expose an interface for a user to control those bits.
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