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Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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I agree with JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship but I disagree with him moving exclusively to spotify for following reasons: 1. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify. 2. Currently, Spotify doesn't have video (except album cover clips wh…

He is going to Spotify for $100 million.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/spotify-strikes-exclusive-podca...

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

#533

I agree with JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship but I disagree with him moving exclusively to spotify for following reasons: 1. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify. 2. Currently, Spotify doesn't have video (except album cover clips wh…

It's probably well over $100 million dollars. I would love to see you stand on those principles of yours and turn down $100 million dollars.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

#534

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You are choosing the most uncharitable reading which is not what he meant. How do I know that? Because, despite his meatheaddy appearances, he has consistently shown himself to not be transphobic, I watch his show. What he wanted to say is that her sex was biologically of male and that's why she has in this specific case unduly enormous advantage, to a degree that she is depriving others of fair chance at competing.

Whether or not trans athletes should be allowed to compete in the same classes as their cis counterparts in MMA is a conversation we can have, but it is beside the point. Trans women are women. If someone makes plainly transphobic comments, and then refuses to apologize for them (or even doubles down), I'm not going to go and listen to hundreds of hours of their content to attempt to gain a more nuanced understanding…

>Whether or not trans athletes should be allowed to compete in the same classes as their cis counterparts in MMA is a conversation we can have

Thats the conversation he was having. You don't have to listen to hours of content, just take it from people here telling you that that was the context of the discussion. Or don't and simply don't comment on the matter. You are not obliged to have an opinion on everything.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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I think they are saying Alex Jones is responsible because his followers ended up stalking and harassing the victims parents. One could argue he never directly said to do that so it isn't his responsibility, but he also has a big platform.

So do you now expect content creators to be in direct responsibility for any stupid action that any of their self-identified fans do? That's just crazy, how do you even consider this a defensible view?

Sorry, are you trying to convince me of something? I just translated what I think is a fair view of a different comment...

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

#536

This explanation does not really make sense: > Bringing the JRE to Spotify will mean that the platform’s more than 286 million active users will have access to one of culture’s leading voices. Spotify has podcasts, JRE is a podcast, so I assume those users already have access to JRE before this deal. > By partnering with Spotify, Rogan and his team will enjoy the support of the world’s leading audio platform. Vague.…

Not having to deal with youtube's nonsense is likely a strong reason. If I was Rogan that reason alone would cause me to regularly evaluate alternatives. Multiple episodes have Rogan himself hitting a Youtube restriction and him verbally expressing frustration.

This is something a lot of content creators on youtube are experiencing.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

#537

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You are choosing the most uncharitable reading which is not what he meant. How do I know that? Because, despite his meatheaddy appearances, he has consistently shown himself to not be transphobic, I watch his show. What he wanted to say is that her sex was biologically of male and that's why she has in this specific case unduly enormous advantage, to a degree that she is depriving others of fair chance at competing.

Whether or not trans athletes should be allowed to compete in the same classes as their cis counterparts in MMA is a conversation we can have, but it is beside the point. Trans women are women. If someone makes plainly transphobic comments, and then refuses to apologize for them (or even doubles down), I'm not going to go and listen to hundreds of hours of their content to attempt to gain a more nuanced understanding…

Respectfully, I understand you have good intent trying to stand up for a marginalized group, but you're being very ignorant. You can't just helicopter in, show no interest in understanding the situation, then cherry-pick something to spew off some unwarranted opinions about before helicoptering out again. While that singular sentence is absolutely insensitive, the context absolutely matters if you're going to judge the character of the person who said it.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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We generally established that "I don't feel comfortable being around them" is not an excuse to discriminate back in the 60s. To clarify: would you argue that the existence of separate drinking fountains for white people and black people is justified because many white people feel uncomfortable drinking from the same fountain a black person has just used? If not, why not?

Hm, I guess you could make an civil rights argument, but it's a tough sell when it comes to the ladies' room. There is a different take you may not be thinking of given that biological males' minds are naturally wretched and beyond contempt when it comes to everything dealing with sex. Some percentage of trans-women are trans primarily because that's a kink for them. It's their kink that has erupted onto their public…

I have to say that I have seen a lot of arguments in support of bathroom bans, but trans women have stinkier shits is new to me and perhaps the most outlandishly petty reason I could imagine. So while I disagree with the entirety of your post, I will give you kudos for coming up with that one.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Is Spotify a monopoly?

Exclusive deals are monopolies by definition.

That’s not what anyone means by monopoly, every TV show and film starts as exclusive and opens up with “windowing” until distribution is ubiquitous.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

#540
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Joe Rogan doesn't move culture by himself. It doesn't matter how many presidential candidates he talks to, he has had multiple guests on his show that have already been kicked off mainstream platforms like Twitter, Youtube, and Facebook. I guarantee there will be controversy for Spotify if Rogan continues to have on this type of guest in the future.

Uhh... no. The reality is YouTube, Twitter and Facebook's censorship do not actually line up with mainstream. People _know_ Alex Jokes is mental, but they still want to hear him talk.

>The poll showed 61 percent of registered voters surveyed believed Jones, who spreads unfounded conspiracy theories through his radio show Infowars, should be banned from the sites of tech companies

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/403772-majority-of-americ...

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