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Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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"Spotify is currently not available in your country."

Take my euros goddarnit. Probably fights involving licensing agreements, or competition buying whole markets. I don't know if I should play at being an international spy and buy VPN just for Rogan or just pirate it out of the general principle.

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You know who else breaks norms? Alex Jones when he peddles lies and threatens lives for profit. He needs to play by society’s rules if he wants to play by society’s rules. You can’t just pick and choose which norms you’re entitled to. That’s called being an asshole and 10 times out of 10 you will be shown the door. There’s a reason no one cried over him getting the boot. It isn’t an indication of some chilling dystop…

> You know who else breaks norms? Alex Jones when he peddles lies and threatens lives for profit. He needs to play by society’s rules if he wants to play by society’s rules. Sounds like a average silicon valley person to me. Google, facebook, twitter, reddit, etc, all of them peddle lies and refuse to play be society's rules. Uber and Doordash are busy destroying local economies and social cohesion to turn a profit.…

What are you talking about? We’re talking about a person getting kicked off of platforms for breaking rules of society. What do companies have to do with anything?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_fallacy

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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The DNC must really want Trump to be reelected the way they constantly make outrageous remarks that alienate anyone who is not a radical.

Yeah, every single remark from the DNC in that article was absolutely ridiculous. All zero of them.

>Sanders’ campaign came under criticism from the DNC establishment after promoting Rogan’s offhanded nomination for president.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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I don't think anyone is explicitly faulting Joe for trying to make money. The initial assumption in this comment chain was Joe NEEDS money, which is unlikely. The man can be enterprising without us having to pretend his family will starve otherwise.

Y'all are taking this way too literally. "a man's gotta eat" is a figure of speech, I meant he needs to maintain his current income. YouTube has probably been jerking him around for years now so moving to a signed multi-year deal is a smart choice in uncertain times.

Sure it's a figure of speech, but especially in a time with record unemployment, food insecurity surrounding remote schooling, and fiscal uncertainty, it's not exactly the best choice of words.

Also, the reference to "doing what's best for his family" is often used to describe making ends meat, not making sure 30M a year doesn't become only 10M a year.

I think having both phrases in one comment made people rightfully see it as a bit strange (hence the response) given he's a multimillionaire.

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"Alex Jones has every right to start his own network if he wants" Ah, the tired old "start your own Google / Facebook / Twitter / YouTube" trope. That can't be too hard /sarc Why is delegating (effective) censorship to Big Tech suddenly a good idea?

delegating censorship to Big Tech is not suddenly a good idea. Louis CK makes millions more a year by funneling distribution through his own site.

I came here to write exactly this about Louis. Hell, he was doing that long before he became a pariah.

I think that cries of "censorship!" from bien-pensant tech folks are largely overblown, and not only for the reasons cited in this thread. If some heterodox ideas of today truly will be part of future orthodoxies, they'll find a way - YouTube or not. A powerful concept that dies on the vine because it cannot get onto Facebook isn't a powerful concept.

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> By any mainstream definition... Rogan has millions of downloads month and had at least one presidential candidate appear for an interview. Joe is one of the people who sets the mainstream definition.

Joe Rogan doesn't move culture by himself. It doesn't matter how many presidential candidates he talks to, he has had multiple guests on his show that have already been kicked off mainstream platforms like Twitter, Youtube, and Facebook. I guarantee there will be controversy for Spotify if Rogan continues to have on this type of guest in the future.

Nonsense. Nobody cares about the fact that he is willing to have a conversation with just about anyone, except the whiny cancel culture twitter mob.

We need more conversations with people we don’t (think we) like.

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If you were born an average American male and you trained your whole youth (and I mean really trained) to be the best basketball player you could be, you wouldn't ever beat Lebron James but you'd beat a lot of elite women basketball players. The physical gifts bestowed upon you by your mom would give you the advantage

We just don't have any evidence of that. Like I said in a previous post, we are in the second decade of this being allowed. Where are all the world class transgender athletes that are dominating men on a routine basis? People always point to the same 2 or 3 examples while acting like this is a widespread epidemic of men deciding to switch genders just to win athletic competitions. I don't think this is as big of a pr…

I'll leave the epidemic of "men deciding to switch genders" to one side.

Let's dig in where you wrote: "If you were born an average American male and you trained your whole youth... you'd beat a lot of elite women basketball players. There is no basis for a statement like that."

No. That is incorrect.

If I took some of the top 1000 male tennis players and pitted them against the top 50 female players you think the women would dominate?

Perhaps serving speed is more specific? Benchmark that. There's just one basis of discussion.

I'm surprised you think there's no basis.

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Some women are uncomfortable sharing bathrooms with trans-women. Should we continue to dictate how these women should behave and feel?

We generally established that "I don't feel comfortable being around them" is not an excuse to discriminate back in the 60s. To clarify: would you argue that the existence of separate drinking fountains for white people and black people is justified because many white people feel uncomfortable drinking from the same fountain a black person has just used? If not, why not?

Hm, I guess you could make an civil rights argument, but it's a tough sell when it comes to the ladies' room.

There is a different take you may not be thinking of given that biological males' minds are naturally wretched and beyond contempt when it comes to everything dealing with sex.

Some percentage of trans-women are trans primarily because that's a kink for them. It's their kink that has erupted onto their public person and now defines them. Perhaps that percentage is vanishingly small. But I say they must exist given that those women started with a male brain and given the disturbing preponderance of bimbo hypno erotic audio that's targeted primarily at men who want to get lost.

See, there's simply no way to have this forbidden conversation because of the reactions. Oh well, fuck it, these are my observations and opinions. Into the breach!

I gather that one source of women's discomfort is when they suspect it's a kink. Maybe it's a shared glance, or inappropriate attire or utterances made. It's not like biological women get to interrogate their trans sisters as to why they've come to the bathroom today. If they've come to enjoy the sexual thrill of a taboo space, then that's a violation.

To a much lesser degree, men's bodies also stink worse than women do and make bigger shits that splash louder in the bowl - also very off-putting to women I'm sure. Not that trans-women can do anything about that, but it still factors.

If you don't agree and all trans-women's hearts and motives are pure, well then God bless.

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Regarding point 1, the article has been updated to reflect that Spotify is holding Rogan to their content policy. This content policy prohibits "Hate Content" [1]. By any mainstream definition that would include Alex Jones and potentially other guests. Some people would even say that applies to Rogan himself for his comments about transgender people. Unless Rogan makes changes to his show or his booking, it is only a…

Most people agree with Rogan that transgender women who have only recently started on female hormones should not hide that status from biologically female opponents in mixed martial arts. It isn't feminist for women's bodies to be brutalized by men's bodies.

How the fuck is this comment flagged? This is not controversial at all. To think otherwise is truly absurd.
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