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Post by parthdesai »

slg wrote: post #312
creato wrote: post #289

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> We just don't have any evidence of that. Are you aware that high school boys soccer and hockey teams are competitive with elite, world class women's teams? Do you think the advantages that men appear to have are anywhere near fully erased by transitioning genders? > I don't think this is as big of a problem as people pretend it is. This is not really about the specific issue to anyone on either side. To you, it's a…

>Are you aware that high school boys soccer and hockey teams are competitive with elite, world class women's teams? Do you think the advantages that men appear to have are anywhere near fully erased by transitioning genders? You are exaggerating with that first claim. It is in no way common for high school male athletes to be competitive against world class female athletes. Secondly, the advantage that men have is ce…

> You are exaggerating with that first claim. It is in no way common for high school male athletes to be competitive against world class female athletes.

They're not though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/3ceeih/the_us_mens_...

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by tyre »

fewfewf wrote: post #306
GoofballJones wrote: post #283

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Alex Jones being kicked off those services isn't the same thing. He was spreading major misinformation and targeted harassment at innocent people that were involved in a tragedy. He wasn't "conspired" against. They just told him to go host his hate somewhere else. And stop with these "censorship" BS. Alex Jones has every right to start his own network if he wants and put anything on it. There's nothing stopping him f…

You're really going to delegate censorship decisions to big tech? What's classes as "misinformation" should be our choice as consumers, not theirs. Example: David Icke may be a conspiracy theorist, but banning him is one step closer from Alex Jones towards a censorship nightmare. The slippery slope is 10ft behind and we're cruising down at 100 mph.

No we're not, calm down.

Alex Jones is riling people up on conspiracy theories that actively do harm in order to make money. What happens if a private company removes him from their platform?

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he can still post on his website?

This isn't some Orwellian nightmare.

A lot of people are trying to figure out how to balance absolute freedom with building a better collective human society.

It's messy! People are messy! And sometimes we make mistakes, even with the best of intentions, even when we make the best choice with the information we have.

It's not like they're kicking math off of YouTube. And, no, this isn't one step towards that.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by zethraeus »

karl11 wrote: post #67
zethraeus wrote: post #62

...and this is how podcasting dies.

Just like how TV shows died once they became exclusive to one network or streaming service!

Just like how the blog-web died with walled gardens.

TV shows were always centrally distributed.

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Post by bassman9000 »

busymom0 wrote: post #122

I agree with JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship but I disagree with him moving exclusively to spotify for following reasons: 1. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify. 2. Currently, Spotify doesn't have video (except album cover clips wh…

Around 0:22

https://newsroom.spotify.com/2020-05-19/the-joe-rogan-experi...

Includes video.

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Post by tomlin »

alvah wrote: post #319
GoofballJones wrote: post #283

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Alex Jones being kicked off those services isn't the same thing. He was spreading major misinformation and targeted harassment at innocent people that were involved in a tragedy. He wasn't "conspired" against. They just told him to go host his hate somewhere else. And stop with these "censorship" BS. Alex Jones has every right to start his own network if he wants and put anything on it. There's nothing stopping him f…

"Alex Jones has every right to start his own network if he wants" Ah, the tired old "start your own Google / Facebook / Twitter / YouTube" trope. That can't be too hard /sarc Why is delegating (effective) censorship to Big Tech suddenly a good idea?

I mean, in general - yeah. But Alex Jones? I've personally launched a few streaming video platforms for audiences within the same # of listeners as AJ's demo - with far less money than AJ has. It's actually not that big of a deal to load an MP4 into a tag, turns out.

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Post by slg »

look_lookatme wrote: post #321
slg wrote: post #280

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We just don't have any evidence of that. Like I said in a previous post, we are in the second decade of this being allowed. Where are all the world class transgender athletes that are dominating men on a routine basis? People always point to the same 2 or 3 examples while acting like this is a widespread epidemic of men deciding to switch genders just to win athletic competitions. I don't think this is as big of a pr…

In track and field the 800m race is my favorite race because it's every bit training and determination as it is natural ability. Here are the results of the women's Olympic 800m championship in Rio in 2016: https://www.olympic.org/rio-2016/athletics/800m-women Here are the results of the 2016 Texas UIL 5A high school boys 800m championship in 2016: https://tx.milesplit.com/meets/224994/results/451208/formatt... If th…

You are moving the goalposts by switching from a highly skilled game like basketball to one that is mostly dictated by physiology. There are certainly athletic competitions in which the gap between men and women differs.

I also notice you chose a race in which Caster Semenya won. I don't know it that was intentional, but that specific race highlights the ridiculousness and arbitrary nature of a ban on transgender athletes. By seemingly all credible accounts she was born, raised, and identifies as a women however she has a genetic condition that gives her some characteristics of a man. Should she be banned from competing against women? If so, what precedent does that set? Do we need to test the chromosomes of all athletes to see if they have rare genetic conditions? Are XX males allowed to compete against women even if they identify as men? What if they are on testosterone therapy?

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by zethraeus »

RyJones wrote: post #85
zethraeus wrote: post #62

...and this is how podcasting dies.

Did radio die when Howard Stern signed with Sirius?

I could never set up my own radio station :).

The point of spotify moving into podcasts is to make a netflix-like channel that 1) attracts user and so 2) attracts more publishers. In turn, Spotify can do dynamically targeted and unskippable advertising which attracts more advertisers, and so more publishers.

As users and publishers leave the open, rss based, podcast world will have significant downwards pressure.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by slg »

parthdesai wrote: post #331
slg wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Are you aware that high school boys soccer and hockey teams are competitive with elite, world class women's teams? Do you think the advantages that men appear to have are anywhere near fully erased by transitioning genders? You are exaggerating with that first claim. It is in no way common for high school male athletes to be competitive against world class female athletes. Secondly, the advantage that men have is ce…

> You are exaggerating with that first claim. It is in no way common for high school male athletes to be competitive against world class female athletes. They're not though. https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/3ceeih/the_us_mens_...

The US Men's U-17 team is not a high school team. It is a team made up of world class athletes who are high school aged. That is a huge distinction. You are saying a team a world class men can beat a team of slightly older world class women. That isn't surprising.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by emilsedgh »

busymom0 wrote: post #122

I agree with JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship but I disagree with him moving exclusively to spotify for following reasons: 1. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify. 2. Currently, Spotify doesn't have video (except album cover clips wh…

> JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship

Meh. Youtube is an open platform. You can upload anything to it and there's almost no oversight except for a few sensitive situations, which I'm pretty much sure Google doesn't want to be involved with to begin with, but they have to. That's the price of them staying open for anyone to upload anything.

But Spotify is a closed and controlled environment. Not anyone can upload anything they want to it...

So in protest against Youtube's censorship he moved to a closed ecosystem where most of the world cannot publish to anyways.

That's either a faulty decision making, or trying to get some PR and making it look like a moral stand not just a better deal.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by joshuamorton »

parthdesai wrote: post #331
slg wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Are you aware that high school boys soccer and hockey teams are competitive with elite, world class women's teams? Do you think the advantages that men appear to have are anywhere near fully erased by transitioning genders? You are exaggerating with that first claim. It is in no way common for high school male athletes to be competitive against world class female athletes. Secondly, the advantage that men have is ce…

> You are exaggerating with that first claim. It is in no way common for high school male athletes to be competitive against world class female athletes. They're not though. https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/3ceeih/the_us_mens_...

That's the best under 17 soccer players. It's essentially people who will be pro soccer players in 1-2 years. That's not the same as common hs male athletes.
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