The final blow to RSS, podcasting remained one of the last strongholds of free distribution and now even that is being locked down in corporate silos.
Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal
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#212I agree with JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship but I disagree with him moving exclusively to spotify for following reasons: 1. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify. 2. Currently, Spotify doesn't have video (except album cover clips wh…
He can't actually be leaving over censorship because if he was there is no way phrases like "exclusive multi-year" would be thrown around. Once burned twice shy. There might have been some tea-leaf reading involved that YouTube isn't a supportive platform these days but this move is probably linked to obscene amounts of money changing hands.
You have to keep in mind that Joe is a comedian first and foremost. Comedians have had the rug pulled out from under them with COVID-19. He's doing what's right for his family at the moment. I fully expect this to come up in one of his next episodes and since he's up front about this stuff it'll probably be summed up as "Sorry you fucks, a man's gotta eat!"
Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal
#213I agree with JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship but I disagree with him moving exclusively to spotify for following reasons: 1. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify. 2. Currently, Spotify doesn't have video (except album cover clips wh…
I don't agree entirely with all these, but I think 3 is the most compelling. It was kind of magical to younger me discovering the interoperability of podcasts and the freedom that granted listeners (and creators too). I've been a big fan of Spotify, but I don't like this recent push to fracture the podcast market with exclusive deals.
That being said it does allow some podcasts to exist that might not otherwise. The only examples I can think of is The Besties.
Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal
#214I agree with JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship but I disagree with him moving exclusively to spotify for following reasons: 1. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify. 2. Currently, Spotify doesn't have video (except album cover clips wh…
Regarding point 1, the article has been updated to reflect that Spotify is holding Rogan to their content policy. This content policy prohibits "Hate Content" [1]. By any mainstream definition that would include Alex Jones and potentially other guests. Some people would even say that applies to Rogan himself for his comments about transgender people. Unless Rogan makes changes to his show or his booking, it is only a…
> ...applies to Rogan himself for his comments about transgender people.
no
the fact that you even brought this up is indication enough of failed widespread misconception about this; he clarified this few times since then and his original comment was aimed at transgender men competing with women it was the most rational comment regarding that situation and it makes this whole "hateful comments about transgender people" pretty ironic and untrue
Rogan himself is pretty reasonable chap I'm sure he will cope with whatever terms spotify might throw his way and apparently figured this might work, so far at least
I personally am not happy about this cause who doesn't like youtube videos
Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal
#215Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal
#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
Regarding point 1, the article has been updated to reflect that Spotify is holding Rogan to their content policy. This content policy prohibits "Hate Content" [1]. By any mainstream definition that would include Alex Jones and potentially other guests. Some people would even say that applies to Rogan himself for his comments about transgender people. Unless Rogan makes changes to his show or his booking, it is only a…
> By any mainstream definition... Rogan has millions of downloads month and had at least one presidential candidate appear for an interview. Joe is one of the people who sets the mainstream definition.
Joe Rogan doesn't move culture by himself. It doesn't matter how many presidential candidates he talks to, he has had multiple guests on his show that have already been kicked off mainstream platforms like Twitter, Youtube, and Facebook. I guarantee there will be controversy for Spotify if Rogan continues to have on this type of guest in the future.
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#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's available as an rss feed that can be consumed by any podcast player. It's not just YouTube.
"exclusive" From the second paragraph of the article "The show will hit Spotify September 1, and become exclusive to the platform later in the year." Doesn't this mean it will no longer be available via the RSS feed? Edit: typo
Right that's what they're lamenting. It was previously not exclusive and now it is.
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#218The comments here are insane. Why do HN readers have this defeatest attitude about absolutely everything? One prominent podcaster takes his show to one of the most popular music streaming services on the planet and the reaction is really "this is the end of podcasting as we know it" ???
> One prominent podcaster takes his show to one of the most popular music streaming services on the planet and the reaction is really "this is the end of podcasting as we know it" ???
It's already been trending that way, it's not like this is the first sign of it. It is an indication that the process of closing up what had been an open ecosystem, which was already underway, is about to accelerate, and yet another open protocol is about to start to wither in favor not of a better open protocol, but closed platforms full of spyware.
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#219I listen to the podcast because of the diverse and interesting guests that are on there sometimes.
It's interesting to watch how a guy that kinda rambles with some friends mostly, created a following, turned his side hustle into an income and now he's really cashing in.
Idk to what extent he worked hard to develop this business. But I suspect it's mostly him making people feels comfortable to table about what they know. If there is someone working on this I would guess the cohost - Jamie - is doing the heavy googling.
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#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
Spotify is rolling out video podcasts. Clips like that will still make their way to YouTube and other platforms (as they announced). However, you are right that making it harder to find and listen to will shrink its audience even if more economically sustainable. It reminds me a lot of Howard Stern leaving radio for satellite.
Really? They might be able to legitimately compete with Youtube. I watch a lot of podcast clips on Youtube but would much rather view it ad-free on Spotify.
on his announcement[0], he says that he will do his video podcast on spotify.