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Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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This seems like short-term thinking from Joe. I'm sure he got paid big time. But his audience will shrink massively and he'll become a niche personality. It'll be similar to what happened to Howard Stern when he went to satellite radio; he quickly faded into relative obscurity.

Why would Joe want to be a famous podscaster forever? Maybe he's heading into podcast retirement.

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I find it interesting that the radical left seeks to silence rather than find a competitor. Ideas are just as marketable as products. I've listened to Joe Rogan for years and have found it educational and entertaining. It's fairly easy to listen while not agreeing to everything with his guests' viewpoints. I believe the content is high-quality, researched, and thoroughly unique. If you do not like the content, you do…

It's a lucrative business to be an entertainer masquerading as someone who is educated about 1000s different topics to his fans. He speaks whatever his fans want to hear so that their beliefs will be reinforced and will continue watching. Nothing more...nothing less.

I’m having a hard time making sense of this. He certainly isn’t without bias (no one is), but he has brought a wide variety of people on the show (Bernie Sanders, Andrew Yang, Ben Shapiro). I don’t follow him heavily, but from the interviews I’ve seen, he just seems to try to get the guest to talk.

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I agree with JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship but I disagree with him moving exclusively to spotify for following reasons: 1. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify. 2. Currently, Spotify doesn't have video (except album cover clips wh…

I don't see how 1 is an issue when Alex Jones et al were deliberately spreading hateful misinformation. Aiming to CYA by booting someone off of a private platform and others following suit is not the same thing as "conspiring to censor" someone

In my opinion your comment is spreading hateful misinformation about YouTube, and I would like for Hacker News to delete it and ban you permanently.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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> Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others Alex Jones has a right to free speech, but if he's going to claim Sandy Hook was a hoax causing grieving parents to be harassed, nobody owes it to him to give him a platform. He can pay his own hosting fees.

Alex Jones is a much less serious threat then 2 or 3 large companies deciding what can discourse can be promulgated. (not a Jones supporter. nor can I imagine how anyone would be)

I think the bigger threat is us enabling 2 to 3 large companies to the degree where their decisions can affect discourse.

Alex Jones is a thoughtless jerk though, and can still find/provide his own hosting/distribution.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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> Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others Alex Jones has a right to free speech, but if he's going to claim Sandy Hook was a hoax causing grieving parents to be harassed, nobody owes it to him to give him a platform. He can pay his own hosting fees.

I'm not sure OP would disagree with you. He made a separate point: > So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify.

Every platform censors to at least some degree or they wouldn't continue existing as a platform. What matters to most folks is the degree of censorship. As YouTube is beholden to advertisers, it's kind of akin to cable TV in terms of what will and won't be shown.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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I don't see how 1 is an issue when Alex Jones et al were deliberately spreading hateful misinformation. Aiming to CYA by booting someone off of a private platform and others following suit is not the same thing as "conspiring to censor" someone

In my opinion your comment is spreading hateful misinformation about YouTube, and I would like for Hacker News to delete it and ban you permanently.

Heh, got 'em. Can I interest you in some brain supplements?

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Re permission , that's not quite true. His show is on YouTube, and his shows are allowed on there only at their pleasure. Censorship there is not unheard of, and though I've watched only a couple, his shows seem like something that could set them off.

It's available as an rss feed that can be consumed by any podcast player. It's not just YouTube.

"exclusive"

From the second paragraph of the article "The show will hit Spotify September 1, and become exclusive to the platform later in the year."

Doesn't this mean it will no longer be available via the RSS feed?

Edit: typo

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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> Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others Alex Jones has a right to free speech, but if he's going to claim Sandy Hook was a hoax causing grieving parents to be harassed, nobody owes it to him to give him a platform. He can pay his own hosting fees.

Alex Jones is a much less serious threat then 2 or 3 large companies deciding what can discourse can be promulgated. (not a Jones supporter. nor can I imagine how anyone would be)

My point is that they don't get to decide that, though. They decide whether they will pay for hosting, but they can't stop him from paying for his own hosting elsewhere.

Likewise, if the WSJ decides not to publish my letter to the editor, they aren't violating my freedom of speech, they are just deciding not to amplify it.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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I agree with JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship but I disagree with him moving exclusively to spotify for following reasons: 1. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify. 2. Currently, Spotify doesn't have video (except album cover clips wh…

I don't see how 1 is an issue when Alex Jones et al were deliberately spreading hateful misinformation. Aiming to CYA by booting someone off of a private platform and others following suit is not the same thing as "conspiring to censor" someone

Conspire - To join or act together; combine

Censor - prohibit or restrict the use of something

Yeah, they conspired to censor.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

#170

I agree with JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship but I disagree with him moving exclusively to spotify for following reasons: 1. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify. 2. Currently, Spotify doesn't have video (except album cover clips wh…

Regarding point 1, the article has been updated to reflect that Spotify is holding Rogan to their content policy. This content policy prohibits "Hate Content" [1]. By any mainstream definition that would include Alex Jones and potentially other guests. Some people would even say that applies to Rogan himself for his comments about transgender people. Unless Rogan makes changes to his show or his booking, it is only a matter of time until this becomes a big issue for him and Spotify.

[1] - https://artists.spotify.com/faq/music#what-content-is-prohib...

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