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Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by paulgb »

busymom0 wrote: post #122

I agree with JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship but I disagree with him moving exclusively to spotify for following reasons: 1. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify. 2. Currently, Spotify doesn't have video (except album cover clips wh…

> Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others

Alex Jones has a right to free speech, but if he's going to claim Sandy Hook was a hoax causing grieving parents to be harassed, nobody owes it to him to give him a platform. He can pay his own hosting fees.

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Post by hnrodey »

nostromo wrote: post #101

This seems like short-term thinking from Joe. I'm sure he got paid big time. But his audience will shrink massively and he'll become a niche personality. It'll be similar to what happened to Howard Stern when he went to satellite radio; he quickly faded into relative obscurity.

>he quickly faded into relative obscurity

And his bank account exploded in to outer space.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by anjc »

It doesn't take much listening to JRE or similar shows to realise that they're in constant fear of strikes and demonetization, even when talking about mundane topics. Joe's no Alex Jones or David Icke, and he's still afraid of getting more strikes on the channel. If this move means he can talk comfortably then good for him. It's not as if listeners lose any rights in the process.

Would this mean he could play artist's music that Spotify are allowed to stream? Or would other agreements be needed for this?

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Post by gkoberger »

paulgb wrote: post #141
busymom0 wrote: post #122

I agree with JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship but I disagree with him moving exclusively to spotify for following reasons: 1. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify. 2. Currently, Spotify doesn't have video (except album cover clips wh…

> Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others Alex Jones has a right to free speech, but if he's going to claim Sandy Hook was a hoax causing grieving parents to be harassed, nobody owes it to him to give him a platform. He can pay his own hosting fees.

The “Right to Free Speech” just means the government can’t impede. Nobody is required to give him a platform, though.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by ihaveajob »

whalesalad wrote: post #82

The comments here are insane. Why do HN readers have this defeatest attitude about absolutely everything? One prominent podcaster takes his show to one of the most popular music streaming services on the planet and the reaction is really "this is the end of podcasting as we know it" ???

I personally don't care for this podcast, but imagine if a popular website (say HN) were to sign a deal to be available exclusively through a walled garden (say Facebook). The open internet loses overall.

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Post by anjc »

dleslie wrote: post #55
icpmacdo wrote: post #13

Rogan said in his instagram post the podcast will stay free, I don’t think this will drive down listenership. With spotify hosting the content he will be able to have Jamie pull up lots more because of fair use, YouTube’s ContentId won’t pull the videos and steal the ad revenue. I think this is the biggest motivation for the move as he is often frustrated with that issues. Also continuing to put clips on YouTube will…

Platform shifts are enough to lose significant viewership.

It work the opposite way too, wherein platforms lose users due to undesired changes. YouTube's banning/striking/demonitizatation of high profile channels, something that Joe often says he's afraid of, could be seen as an undesirable platform change.

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Post by Ididntdothis »

whalesalad wrote: post #77
slg wrote: post #61

I don't listen to his show, but as a general podcast fan this is sad. This isn't the first podcast to move away from having a free and open feed of the show, but it is certainly the biggest and it opens the doors for a lot more exclusivity deals in the future.

Why is this sad? To me it illustrates that there is a lot of value in Spotify as a delivery mechanism and that the existing channels are not working. If anything it should inspire creative new solutions to the issue.

"To me it illustrates that there is a lot of value in Spotify as a delivery mechanism and that the existing channels are not working."

I think it illustrates that Spotify has a lot of money and needs to pay more publishers to use its platform.

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Post by lwhalen »

Barrin92 wrote: post #59
vsdvvsderer wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happens if the conspiracy theorist is someone you agree with? Do we still avoid mainstreaming them?

I wanted to avoid starting a discussion about conspiracy theories which is why I qualified it as personal, but given that you're asking, I categorically reject conspiracy theories because conspiracy logic is by definition paranoid, and I don't believe any of them.

So all it takes to shortcut your "rational examination of the evidence at hand" loop is to have someone label a subject as 'a conspiracy'? That's certainly an interesting way to move through life.

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Post by Ididntdothis »

This quote caught my eye:

"At the time, the Human Rights Campaign said Sanders “must reconsider” the endorsement, stating that Rogan has “attacked transgender people, gay men, women, people of color and countless marginalized groups at every opportunity.”"

If they attack somebody like Rogan in this way, it's no wonder that a lot of people are getting tired of political correctness and move the other direction.

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Post by nojito »

itqwertz wrote: post #109
NickBusey wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I find it interesting that the radical left seeks to silence rather than find a competitor. Ideas are just as marketable as products. I've listened to Joe Rogan for years and have found it educational and entertaining. It's fairly easy to listen while not agreeing to everything with his guests' viewpoints. I believe the content is high-quality, researched, and thoroughly unique. If you do not like the content, you do…

It's a lucrative business to be an entertainer masquerading as someone who is educated about 1000s different topics to his fans.

He speaks whatever his fans want to hear so that their beliefs will be reinforced and will continue watching.

Nothing more...nothing less.

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