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Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by hinkley » Tue, May 19, 2020, 9:16 PM UTC

jpalomaki wrote: post #64

This might be a big thing. I think audio is kind of underused medium. We have podcasts, audio books and music, but there’s much more that could be done. Like radio theater, documentaries, talk shows. Professionally produced audio content can be really enjoyable experience. Production costs for audio stuff are less than for video. Our busy lives have limits for video consumption, but I think there’s still room for mor…

I was trying to make a Hulu or Netflix simile in my head and then you brought up audio books.

I'm trying to decide if I would mind world where 'a Spotify' bought Libro, and focused on doing literary interviews and such.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by tinyhouse » Tue, May 19, 2020, 9:16 PM UTC

Never understood why his podcast such a hit. I mean, I like the guy, and he's knowledgeable about MMA. But he's not someone I care to listen to on other topics.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by jccalhoun » Tue, May 19, 2020, 9:16 PM UTC

If this was a podcast that I listened to, I would be mad. I want podcasts to be in my podcast app. I listen to them mostly on my phone and I don't have spotify on my phone. I don't want to install and open a separate program just for one show.

It also irritates me off when I see a podcast mentioned online and they only give an itunes link. I am an android user. Yes, most of the shows are in pocketcast's directory if I search for it but only putting an itunes link makes it more work for me and less likely to bother.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by busymom0 » Tue, May 19, 2020, 9:16 PM UTC

throwawaysea wrote: post #73

Given that Spotify engages in some of the same censorship and control that other bit tech platforms like Google/YouTube/Twitter practice, I don't see why I would trust them and invest in their platform as a fan of such content. See https://www.midiaresearch.com/blog/spotifys-censorship-crisi... for a past example where Spotify entered the fray of imposing their own worldviews by censoring content. Yes they ultimately…

Exactly. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify.

HN likes downvoting reasonable comments just because it contains a name people may not like.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by microcolonel » Tue, May 19, 2020, 9:16 PM UTC

bb2018 wrote: post #94

overkill28 wrote: post #79

That's too bad, I hope at least the old episodes remain on YouTube. Not only because it is simple and easy and free to find and listen to the episodes, but the associated visual content (clips, reactions) is good too. Would Elon's blunt hit have been nearly as entertaining in purely audio form?

Spotify is rolling out video podcasts. Clips like that will still make their way to YouTube and other platforms (as they announced). However, you are right that making it harder to find and listen to will shrink its audience even if more economically sustainable. It reminds me a lot of Howard Stern leaving radio for satellite.

YouTube really, really didn't deserve his patronage though. As somebody who has had a YouTube Premium membership over the years, the general disrespect YouTube has for the people who make the videos that attract people to their platform is offensive to me.

On YouTube, your live stream can be pulled mid-sentence if you say the name "Eric CIAramella", even if you're referring to one of the many people with that name other than the one they're concerned with. Then there is the 共匪 fiasco of the last few days. The history goes back and back and back, it's a history of declining principle, and a complete lack of policy consistency, where the audiences and creators are not only a mere commodity in reality (which is par for the course) but made to feel like it too.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by jumpman500 » Tue, May 19, 2020, 9:17 PM UTC

bb2018 wrote: post #94

overkill28 wrote: post #79

That's too bad, I hope at least the old episodes remain on YouTube. Not only because it is simple and easy and free to find and listen to the episodes, but the associated visual content (clips, reactions) is good too. Would Elon's blunt hit have been nearly as entertaining in purely audio form?

Spotify is rolling out video podcasts. Clips like that will still make their way to YouTube and other platforms (as they announced). However, you are right that making it harder to find and listen to will shrink its audience even if more economically sustainable. It reminds me a lot of Howard Stern leaving radio for satellite.

Really? They might be able to legitimately compete with Youtube. I watch a lot of podcast clips on Youtube but would much rather view it ad-free on Spotify.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by bengale » Tue, May 19, 2020, 9:17 PM UTC

nostromo wrote: post #101

This seems like short-term thinking from Joe. I'm sure he got paid big time. But his audience will shrink massively and he'll become a niche personality. It'll be similar to what happened to Howard Stern when he went to satellite radio; he quickly faded into relative obscurity.

Yeah it’s pretty weird. I watch a lot of his shows in the background while working. But I won’t be downloading Spotify to follow him over there.

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Post by RandyRanderson » Tue, May 19, 2020, 9:17 PM UTC

Note that the old clips WILL NOT remain on youtube at the end of the year. At least that's what he said in the Patton Oswald intro.

He's been a critic of yt's policies for a while. I hope that he comments on whether this is a purely monetary call or, in some part, due to those policies. Maybe he or Jamie-pedia read hn? :>

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Post by downerending » Tue, May 19, 2020, 9:18 PM UTC

paulgb wrote: post #63

slg wrote: post #61

I don't listen to his show, but as a general podcast fan this is sad. This isn't the first podcast to move away from having a free and open feed of the show, but it is certainly the biggest and it opens the doors for a lot more exclusivity deals in the future.

Agreed. I don't think people appreciate how unique podcasting is as a distribution medium in that it has lasted so long as a completely open ecosystem. Nobody needs anyone's permission to write a podcasting app or launch a new podcast. Sad to see that start to change, but I'm also kind of optimistic for one reason: there's just so damned much audio content out there that it is people's attention, not audio content, t…

Re permission, that's not quite true. His show is on YouTube, and his shows are allowed on there only at their pleasure. Censorship there is not unheard of, and though I've watched only a couple, his shows seem like something that could set them off.

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Post by bengale » Tue, May 19, 2020, 9:19 PM UTC

tinyhouse wrote: post #112

Never understood why his podcast such a hit. I mean, I like the guy, and he's knowledgeable about MMA. But he's not someone I care to listen to on other topics.

I find the guests pretty interesting most of the time and it tends to be laid back as he doesn’t get confrontational with people. It helps that’s he’s a funny guy and can carry a conversation with pretty much anyone.