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Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

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Post by devit »

itsspring wrote: post #9
_jal wrote: post #6

A whole class of retailer that will be blocked at my router. The Balkanization is well underway.

My thoughts exactly. I’ve blocked Facebook in my DNS hosts file & thankfully Firefox has a Facebook fence to isolate their trackers.

You could remove the DNS block and only block it from loading from 3rd party sites using the built-in Firefox support or a suitable WebExtension (and also block it in non-browser apps if desired by setting up a MITM proxy with a certificate only trusted by the browser and user agent filtering).

Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

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Post by mbreese »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #14

I dislike Facebook, but this is a really smart way to grab a market share. Most businesses need minimal online presence so FB front is sufficient. I won't see those businesses, but I know I am a minority, when it comes to this.

I see this as a good move too. I've only recently had to start re-using Facebook just because so many of our local restaurants have been posting information about new hours or menus, etc (covid-related changes) only on their FB page. Even for those businesses that have a separate web site (and domain), they most often publish updates to only FB. It would make sense for FB to formalize this de-facto relationship.

Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

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Post by tjkrusinski »

stephenr wrote: post #74
scarface74 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Random non rant: Thank you for being self aware enough to know that you are in the minority when it comes to not having Facebook. Most posts by people who don’t use FB and post to HN feign ignorance and say something like “I haven’t used FB in 10 years. Does anyone still use it?”

Minority of what exactly? As pointed out downthread, a lot more people on earth don’t have FB than do. I’d also wager plenty of people who’ve stopped using it still technically “have” an account but never use it. So how do you define that “the majority” use Facebook?

Each month, 3 billion people (de-duped) use one of Facebook's products.

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Post by munchbunny »

stephenr wrote: post #74
scarface74 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Random non rant: Thank you for being self aware enough to know that you are in the minority when it comes to not having Facebook. Most posts by people who don’t use FB and post to HN feign ignorance and say something like “I haven’t used FB in 10 years. Does anyone still use it?”

Minority of what exactly? As pointed out downthread, a lot more people on earth don’t have FB than do. I’d also wager plenty of people who’ve stopped using it still technically “have” an account but never use it. So how do you define that “the majority” use Facebook?

I think it's pretty clear what was meant even if it might not technically be a minority/majority.

For the markets that Facebook is common in, it has enough of a user base that it can be an all-in-one for a small business.

Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

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Post by saltedonion »

hckr_news wrote: post #80
saltedonion wrote: post #77

I don’t see this as a positive for FB at all. To me, this looks like FB has finally accepted defeat in the social networking space. Over the years it has been deteriorating at delivering on its core mission of connecting people and supporting personal relationships. I don’t think FB of the past would have green lighted this project, the hit on its brand positioning is significant. It will only accelerate people’s dis…

It considers itself a media conglomerate and has done for some time now. Social connections is just one piece of what they offer.

FB as in Facebook, excluding Instagram, which has traditionally been positioned as more of a open platform of discovery.

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Post by graham_paul »

hjek wrote: post #67
JKCalhoun wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't use Facebook either. Wondering at what point we're not in the minority?

Out of the 7.8 billion people on Earth "only" 2.6 billion are used by Facebook so technically we're already there.

sounds encouraging

Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

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Post by dmix »

mikestew wrote: post #79
dmix wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. What's the point of having values if you're not willing to be burdened with some costs? Since FB lacks strong values it gets imposed on the wider community, but such is life. The only true option is using or building alternatives. Trying to chain the monster, where every individual positive attributes always has to be controlled and directed from some other central body, whom we then also have to trust with e…

Are you replying to me, or just hijacking to make a general point? Because FB gets blocked at DNS at my house, I could have saved you some typing on "values".

I was commenting in support of not using FB, which is supporting what you're saying...

Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

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Post by scarface74 »

stephenr wrote: post #74
scarface74 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Random non rant: Thank you for being self aware enough to know that you are in the minority when it comes to not having Facebook. Most posts by people who don’t use FB and post to HN feign ignorance and say something like “I haven’t used FB in 10 years. Does anyone still use it?”

Minority of what exactly? As pointed out downthread, a lot more people on earth don’t have FB than do. I’d also wager plenty of people who’ve stopped using it still technically “have” an account but never use it. So how do you define that “the majority” use Facebook?

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

First subtract China where it isn't available and you're down to a possible market of 6.35 Billion. But then start subtracting the number of children in the world, the number too poor to spend any money on anything FB would be selling or advertising and random other places where it might be blocked.

Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

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Post by true_religion »

scarface74 wrote: post #30
A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #14

I dislike Facebook, but this is a really smart way to grab a market share. Most businesses need minimal online presence so FB front is sufficient. I won't see those businesses, but I know I am a minority, when it comes to this.

Random non rant: Thank you for being self aware enough to know that you are in the minority when it comes to not having Facebook. Most posts by people who don’t use FB and post to HN feign ignorance and say something like “I haven’t used FB in 10 years. Does anyone still use it?”

Facebook is like LinkedIn. Everyone has an account, but not everyone cares about theirs.

You keep your Facebook account for the rare occasion that it’s useful. I logged into mine to keep up with old friends during covid, rather than waiting for reunions to find out if someone died.

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