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Re: Notion for everyone

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Post by fermienrico »

pcx wrote: post #49

I love using Notion, but I think the general discussion about it does not talk enough about how it's flexibility is also a problem many times. 1. Flexibility of blocks is a cognitive overhead for most folks in my team. They would rather prefer more constrained and opinionated approaches like Trello 2. Notion is currently a jack of all trades and master of none. We have tried to use it as a wiki, project tracker, issu…

Also, the whole Emoji's thing is distracting to me. I just want to see plain text in simple san-serif fonts, with borders (which are apparently outdated in favor of massive emptiness of negative space).

Visual cognitive load is ok as far as the brain can process blocks of information. Such as a table with borders. When you have emojis, colors, effects, etc without clarity of separation, you get something that becomes tiring after a little while to look at.

Re: Notion for everyone

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Post by pcx »

jdhornby wrote: post #75
pcx wrote: post #49

I love using Notion, but I think the general discussion about it does not talk enough about how it's flexibility is also a problem many times. 1. Flexibility of blocks is a cognitive overhead for most folks in my team. They would rather prefer more constrained and opinionated approaches like Trello 2. Notion is currently a jack of all trades and master of none. We have tried to use it as a wiki, project tracker, issu…

I’ve had a similar experience with Notion. “Jack of all trades and master of none” resonates strongly with me. This lead me to my latest startup https://froosthq.com/ which is Notion inspired and aimed solely at software teams.

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Re: Notion for everyone

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Post by singhrac »

Can we talk about how slow it is? Literally the main reason I don't use this app (which seems so good for my use cases) is that it takes forever to start up on my phone. I can use it on my desktop but only because it's a fast machine - I could see a Macbook Air struggling to load it.

Re: Notion for everyone

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Post by ivansavz »

txcwpalpha wrote: post #7

Anyone mind giving me a TL;DR on the value proposition/use case of Notion? I have a friend that works at a small company who is absolutely nuts about it (every single one of his tweets is about it), but I also have seen other people say it's a convoluted mess once you get above a certain size and they regret ever going down that path. Also curious if anyone has comments on how it compares to similar apps like Dropbox…

The best way to understand notion is as a relational database. You can build arbitrary collections (tables) of "cards" and choose structured properties (columns) on them. The "body" of the card itself is a standard markdown note.

The way you can display these cards is also very flexible (views): kanban, a table, list, gallery, etc with easy to setup filtering and sorting options. You can have multiple views attached to each collection (e.g. a KanBan board for team project managment and a separate "my TODOs" list)

The most powerful part is when you start to setup relations (foreign keys) between tables, which allows you to use all the power of relational data using GUI point and click. Anyone familiar with SQL (or Django ORM) will feel right at home with Foreign key, and reverse relationships.

The reason people are so excited about notion is that it "democratizes" the power of database — to non-technical people.

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Post by ciarannolan »

fabiandesimone wrote: post #118
ciarannolan wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does Notion have access to the content of my notes if they're compelled to produce them? Do employees have access to the content of my notes?

Yes they do. Read the T&C.

Was hoping for an answer from someone at Notion rather than "read a 50 page legal document", but thanks.

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Post by mynegation »

arkitaip wrote: post #100
tommoor wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trello… still exists?

Only on HN can people question the existence of an app which has 50M users. Trello might not be this month's flavor but I'll be damned if it's not one of the most useful planning tools out there.

I think tommoor is aware that Trello still exists, I read it as them questioning parent comment's phrasing "miss Trello"

Re: Notion for everyone

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Post by ivansavz »

ggregoire wrote: post #84

TL;DR for the people already paying $4/month: You can downgrade to the free plan for which the number of blocks is not limited anymore, or keep paying paying $4/month for a bunch of extra features. From the FAQ: What if I'm already paying for the old Personal Plan? You've been automatically upgraded to our new Personal Pro Plan at no extra cost! In addition to all the features of the free Personal Plan, Personal Pro…

Thx. Very helpful TL;DR. I'm particularly excited about the "API access (coming soon)" part.

Re: Notion for everyone

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

sergiotapia wrote: post #73
GordonS wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if you don't tap "yes" there is no way to dismiss it. Not a fan of this behaviour, and won't be looking any further.

This is top-tier HN material right here folks.

If you use dark patterns on your front page, why would I ever trust your app?

Re: Notion for everyone

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Post by [deleted] »

_fzslm wrote: post #45
franky47 wrote: post #23

The one thing that bothers me about Notion (and Slack and other "everything in one place" tools), is the lack of encryption. I might have FAANGophobia, but whenever there is a free tier without a form of end-to-end encryption in place, it feels like a data puddle waiting to become a lake. That being said, having clear-text data would allow features like an API on publicly shared pages/blocks, to use Notion as a CMS.…

this is the only thing that stops me from using Notion, too. just downloaded it and it looks like it would change my life... except i don't own the data. right now i'm trying out Outline [1] which has an option for self hosting. [1] https://github.com/outline/outline

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