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Re: Tiny websites are great

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Post by nmeofthestate »

grifball wrote: post #107
stavros wrote: post #16

I love this initiative in principle, but the instructions left a rather sour taste in my mouth. Create a Firebase app, download and install Node and run some arcane cli commands? For what? To upload a 10-byte HTML file somewhere? Please, do yourself and us a favour and sign up for a free account on https://neocities.org , and make a quirky website by hand for all of us to enjoy. I half want to write a post like this…

oh, wow, just read that complicated cli/firebase stuff. yeah, even easier (or maybe more minimalistic) would be: goto 192.168.0.1 (or .1.1) and figure out how to port forward '80' to your machine. install apache goto a dynamic dns service, get some sub-subdomain, and setup a curl script to set it to your IP. put an html file in your apache server. voila, you have your own website* *if your ISP allows traffic on port…

It's funny that you think all that stuff is easier.

Re: Tiny websites are great

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Post by Tepix »

Tiny websites are great, agreed. The best thing about them? They can be deployed in a decentralized fashion and can protect the visitor's privacy.

This guide however, suggests using Google Analytics which tracks unsuspecting users' browsing history across almost the entire web.

It hosts the website centrally by a Google owned service (which provides even more tracking to Google). It suggests buying a domain name from Google.

Is this some kind of Google advertisement?

No, but no thanks.

Re: Tiny websites are great

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Post by kwhitefoot »

armyofbots wrote: post #94

If only there were a search engine for tiny websites.

If every tiny website linked to at least two other tiny web sites using something that a crawler could recognize it would be easy.

Alternatively, is there a heuristic that reliably classifies websites in to tiny/not-tiny?

How could we get this started?

Re: Tiny websites are great

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Post by woodrowbarlow »

saagarjha wrote: post #58
kick wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WYSIWYG editors are universally bad, and so are Markdown ones. The benefit of Markdown is that you just write it in a text editor. You don't need syntax highlighting to use it effectively. Take reddit, as an example, which got millions of people to write perfect Markdown as intuitively as writing English.

It really depends on the editor. Some editors give you raw access to the underlying code and apply styles to it as you type, kind of like syntax highlighting. Some actually try to be rich text editors with a (usually restricted) Markdown input. You can guess which ones make me want to flip a table. (Hint: Slack, fix your editor!)

i think slack now allows you to disable the visual editor in settings - you can still format with markdown but the formatting isn't rendered until you send.

Re: Tiny websites are great

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Post by amenod »

robertlagrant wrote: post #132
camillomiller wrote: post #118

>“ Things have really changed since I began learning, and rightly so. Instead of coding in plain HTML, CSS and JS, I'm now using endless frameworks, modules and libraries to build increasingly more complex web and mobile applications. It's great, if I didn't use these tools my code would be an unmaintainable mess.” How sad that this has become the widely accepted narrative. There’s a lot of value right now in NOT bui…

I don't understand why changing a title tag would require any code. Is it the framework or the code? (I don't know Vue, but this smells a bit.)

It's not about Vue (or React for that matter). Incompetent developers will take whatever tools they have at their disposal and turn a few hours project into an unmaintainable monstrosity.

Re: Tiny websites are great

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Post by kaoD »

tjchear wrote: post #120
kick wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WYSIWYG editors are universally bad, and so are Markdown ones. The benefit of Markdown is that you just write it in a text editor. You don't need syntax highlighting to use it effectively. Take reddit, as an example, which got millions of people to write perfect Markdown as intuitively as writing English.

When you say WYSIWYG editors are universally bad, do you mean the idea of it is just bad, or the implementations we've had so far are bad?

If every single implementation we've had so far after all these years is bad, probably the idea itself is too.

Re: Tiny websites are great

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Post by [deleted] »

every wrote: post #93
Evidlo wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was considering joining SDF, but I'm confused about the membership levels. What's the minimum level needed for static html hosting with a domain I already own?

This may be what you are looking for. An ARPA membership with a small annual fee... https://sdf.org/?faq?VHOST?01

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Re: Tiny websites are great

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Post by samoa42 »

Evidlo wrote: post #90
every wrote: post #55

Mine[1] is rather tiny and simple. It is actually generated by the tree command in about a second. It's a port from the gopher protocol and is hosted by the venerable sdf.org[2]. I decided to pay an exorbitant $60 a year for an enhanced membership simply to have an https address and some other assorted goodies[3]... [1] https://every.sdf.org/ [2] https://sdf.org/ [3] https://sdf.org/?tutorials/metaarray

I was considering joining SDF, but I'm confused about the membership levels. What's the minimum level needed for static html hosting with a domain I already own?

please correct if wrong, but the free-tier + redirect (cname or http-redirect) from the domain registrar would work just fine

Re: Tiny websites are great

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Post by rakoo »

stavros wrote: post #16

I love this initiative in principle, but the instructions left a rather sour taste in my mouth. Create a Firebase app, download and install Node and run some arcane cli commands? For what? To upload a 10-byte HTML file somewhere? Please, do yourself and us a favour and sign up for a free account on https://neocities.org , and make a quirky website by hand for all of us to enjoy. I half want to write a post like this…

I do agree that beyond the site being tiny, an important part of taking control back is to question the hosting part. The "traditional" web is, unfortunately, not fit for minimum hosting without either shelling out some money or depending on a third-party (however good it is). It is high time decentralized web alternatives gain adoption.

How to host your tiny website with beaker (https://beakerbrowser.com/)

1. Open Beaker 2. If you don't have any content, select "New Hyperdrive" from the burger menu, enter your site name, and start editing content with the integrated editor 3. If you already have a folder with content, select "New Hyperdrive from folder" 4. You have a website ! Update it locally and changes will be propagated. Your site address is the hyperlink in the URL bar !

There shouldn't need to be more steps and, more importantly, dependencies on external processes/companies/organization to say what you want to say and spread it.

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