Termux is the only reason I use Android. If it doesn't work in the future I will most likely switch to IOS. Long term software support is much better anyway.
Termux and Android 10
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Re: Termux and Android 10
#272I really hope they figure out a good solution for this problem. One way I distinguish between a "real" computer and a toy or appliance is whether you can use the device to write software for it. With Termux, you can write Linux-style programs on the Android device itself or even build full Android apks. One of the other awesome things about Termux is that you can use it to setup a pretty complete ARM Linux environmen…
The only "real" solution is to get an actual Linux phone, such as the PinePhone[1] or Librem 5[2]. 1 - https://www.pine64.org/pinephone 2 - https://puri.sm/products/librem-5
If only they had a desktop mode like Samsung Dex.
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The only "real" solution is to get an actual Linux phone, such as the PinePhone[1] or Librem 5[2]. 1 - https://www.pine64.org/pinephone 2 - https://puri.sm/products/librem-5
Unfortunately these tiny side projects are not the answer. They'll never get traction because they're not better devices. The answer is to either hack Android/iOS so you can patch out all the bundled bs or to regulate them and force them to offer a "clean" OS version.
This is why, after years of pining over Librem phone and similar, and learning a lot about security along the way, I've settled on GrapheneOS.
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That would be ChromeOS tablets. Full linux terminal in container and all. Hasn't really made any difference.
>Android 10 Is killing Termux terminal app Remember who owns Android. It's not worth investing time into a platform that will be further restricted sooner or later. Why should they treat the tablet differently?
Yes, but who owns AOSP?
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As someone who has been on Linux a long time, but still has to support family members using Windows, here's my perspective: 1) Linux is usually easier in the "happy case", where everything works as it should, and it supports everything that the user needs. 2) Linux is way way way less likely to just change something and break the whole system while the user is sleeping. (This was REAL fun with my grandparents-in-law…
I support several family/friends that are computer novices. It's super easy. Just install the latest ubuntu LTS, drag off all the icons except for the settings/sound (for earphones+microphone) and the browser icon. Instead of weekly complaints (lost windows, things changing, sound not working, etc). I get the occasional query once a year or so. I can login remotely to tweak things, or share their screen if need be. W…
So does Jitsi Meet.
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>It's way easier to find someone you know to help you on Windows than Linux, for now. Really? Windows seems to be losing developer mindshare pretty fast and I’m not convinced this isn’t already the case. In college the capture the flag group had a serious problem finding people familiar with windows development and most junior software engineers I’ve met are much more familiar with GNU/Linux than windows.
Windows support for family members is not limited to developers, it includes the son, niece, brother or cousin that likes to game on their windows machine and is just more used to it. (And I am not sure about the mindshare declining rapidly either.)
"Just install Cee-Cee-Cleaner, bro."
Re: Termux and Android 10
#278Impact of Android 10 on Termux usability is already old news. What worries me more is behaviour of Termux developers. They make dubious claims and effectively sabotage their own application (more on that below). The solution to Android 10 problems — a software wrapper called "proot" [1] — has already been found. That solution would allow to keep all of Termux functionality and preserve existing package managers (such…
Yeah, their decision baffles me too. I'm pretty sure the average termux user is willing to install f-droid if play store decides to remove termux. They shouldn't compromise usability to appease google overloads.
Do you know of any documentation on how to use proot to get around this restriction?
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But you pay 750$ for a 3GB quad core phone; I've got these specs on a 300€ OnePlus One five (six?) years ago. Sure, replaceable battery and open hardware are a _very_ good thing, but the value/$ of these phones are horrendous. That's not to defend OnePlus or any other manufacturer, but when I can get a high end Samsung or Xiaomi device with 4 times the specs at every corner for the same price or less and simply insta…
These phones are primarily about user-freedom, privacy and my ability to do whatever I want with a device that I've purchased, without restrictions imposed by the OEM. Also, honest question; What do you actually 'use' the latest specs for? These Android/iOS phones are basically all about media consumption, something that has been sufficiently performant for years. You have great hardware, but no software to take real…
Any Android phone can do so much more on the software side.
One just needs to treat them as Java based OS that happens to allow native code for high performance 3D graphics, real time audio and integration of C and C++ libraries.
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The only "real" solution is to get an actual Linux phone, such as the PinePhone[1] or Librem 5[2]. 1 - https://www.pine64.org/pinephone 2 - https://puri.sm/products/librem-5
Android is not actual Linux?
Given that you guys don't list Linux APIs as something that one can count on as stable NDKs APIs, require us to manually write JNI wrappers to access 90% of OS features, no not really.
It could be running BSD or Windows and we would hardly notice.