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Re: Termux and Android 10

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

jfkebwjsbx wrote: post #51
tmpz22 wrote: post #17

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Tablet companies really need to realize that a decent tablet with a decent dev experience is going to lead to an explosion of developers on their platform and result directly in way higher quality apps and therefore way better sales and brand. Imagine if websites couldn’t be developed on normal desktop computers and you had to run an extremely inefficient emulator every time you wanted to make a small notification.

Why would anyone want a tablet if a laptop is an option?

This never made any sense to me -> going from a multi-monitor setup to a laptop feels like i am handicapped man suffering from tunnel vision. I can't imagine what coding on a tablet feels like.

Re: Termux and Android 10

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Post by thekyle »

ddevault wrote: post #196
mjg59 wrote: post #77

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> Why are the developers at Google acting in such boneheaded ways? (I'm a developer at Google, but I'm not on the Android team and am definitely not providing any sort of official response here - this is personal opinion and may be inaccurate) If apps can download arbitrary code and then execute it, they can bypass the validation that's done as part of the Play Protect program. My understanding is that there's plenty…

This excuse might hold even a little bit of water if the "validation" actually did anything. Google Play is a malware distributor, plain and simple. Go search the Play store for "flashlight" and read up on the permissions of any of the first 10 results. https://play.google.com/store/search?q=flashlight GPS location, full network access, prevent device from sleeping, run at startup, microtransactions, read contacts an…

The other day I was trying to find a QR code scanning app in Google Play for my mother. I honestly cannot blame people for ending up with a phone full or spyware since basically all the top results were garbage. I ended up searching for "qr reader foss" which got me some decent apps.

Re: Termux and Android 10

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Post by ddevault »

thekyle wrote: post #232
ddevault wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This excuse might hold even a little bit of water if the "validation" actually did anything. Google Play is a malware distributor, plain and simple. Go search the Play store for "flashlight" and read up on the permissions of any of the first 10 results. https://play.google.com/store/search?q=flashlight GPS location, full network access, prevent device from sleeping, run at startup, microtransactions, read contacts an…

The other day I was trying to find a QR code scanning app in Google Play for my mother. I honestly cannot blame people for ending up with a phone full or spyware since basically all the top results were garbage. I ended up searching for "qr reader foss" which got me some decent apps.

Try F-Droid next time.

Re: Termux and Android 10

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Post by codethief »

grawprog wrote: post #150

>Issues >Android 10 does not allow free access to /sdcard (at least file system based). Yeah that is kind of an issue, with plenty more apps than termux I'm guessing.

Yup. For me it's particularly painful that Syncthing will stop working[0, 1]. Though it seems there might be hope in Android 11[2]?

[2] https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing-android/issues/29

[1] https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android/issues/457

[2] https://forum.syncthing.net/t/android-11-all-files-access-fo...

Re: Termux and Android 10

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Post by michaelmrose »

hsitz wrote: post #160
MereInterest wrote: post #141

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About once every 2-3 months, something would be changed in ChromeOS that would break the crouton installation. The solution could be as simple as updating crouton, only 15-30 minutes of lost time, to switching to/from a later development version of ChromeOS, 3-4 hours of lost time as the entire hard drive is wiped and you need to rebuild the environment. The use of a Linux environment in ChromeOS should only be viewe…

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Crouton is different from Crostini, and it's Crostini that is the default/built-in Linux container on Chromeos (on a Pixelbook). I've been using Crostini on Chromeos since November 2018 and I've never had "the hard drive wiped" or had to rebuild the environment. I'm trying hard to recall anything that's actually been a bug. I'm sure there've been some. Mostly they've been rolli…

Chrome OS historically has been the most thoroughly mediocre desktop experience available on any device. Inferior to windows, traditional Linux, or Mac worthy of note only in that one could find one at Walmart for $200.

Between launch in 2009 and 2018 the necessary escape hatch to run real Linux was a flaky tool called crouton. 9 years later a better but more complicated tool exists with caviates like

> Can I run X programs?

>Yes, although you might run into some compatibility kinks, and it probably will never be as perfect as running a traditional X server. However, with the wider community moving to Wayland, it should be good enough.

So running real Linux but somehow less capable than wsl?

I understand why people buy $200 devices to watch Netflix on. I do not understand people buying expensive fake Linux device, learning a complex chrome OS specific framework to sort of run actual Linux applications that would be trivial to run on an actual Linux computer out of the box.

It speaks of an enjoyment of complexity for its own sake. This isn't exactly a sin. People also like to say make their own clothes but it's rather hard to recommend.

Re: Termux and Android 10

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Post by zozbot234 »

kragen wrote: post #223

I'm having a hard time already in Android 6. I used to be able to do things like use Termux to move videos I'd downloaded in NewPipe into subdirectories and delete them; apparently with Android 6 I can't do that any more. What alternatives to Android are people using? I'm already not using the Play Store, just F-Droid and a couple of third-party apks.

If you're not using Play, why not root your device? You could ultimately bypass all of these restrictions.

Re: Termux and Android 10

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Post by thekyle »

ddevault wrote: post #233
thekyle wrote: post #232

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The other day I was trying to find a QR code scanning app in Google Play for my mother. I honestly cannot blame people for ending up with a phone full or spyware since basically all the top results were garbage. I ended up searching for "qr reader foss" which got me some decent apps.

Try F-Droid next time.

I do use that on my phone.

Re: Termux and Android 10

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Post by zozbot234 »

thekyle wrote: post #232
ddevault wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This excuse might hold even a little bit of water if the "validation" actually did anything. Google Play is a malware distributor, plain and simple. Go search the Play store for "flashlight" and read up on the permissions of any of the first 10 results. https://play.google.com/store/search?q=flashlight GPS location, full network access, prevent device from sleeping, run at startup, microtransactions, read contacts an…

The other day I was trying to find a QR code scanning app in Google Play for my mother. I honestly cannot blame people for ending up with a phone full or spyware since basically all the top results were garbage. I ended up searching for "qr reader foss" which got me some decent apps.

Doesn't Android support QR scanning in the stock Camera app anyway? You shouldn't even need to take a photo, it should detect the QR pattern and give you the option of reading/copying/browsing to it.

Re: Termux and Android 10

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

larrik wrote: post #43
pathartl wrote: post #4

I'm really starting to despise most OS's for having such an overbearing security policy. I think it's really why I've stuck with Windows for so long. For sure Windows is not as user-stupid as something like macOS, iOS, Android, etc... but for me as a power user it's just about as powerful as I need to be. I'm not even considering *nix distros here because honestly the market for every day users for something like Ubu…

As someone who has been on Linux a long time, but still has to support family members using Windows, here's my perspective: 1) Linux is usually easier in the "happy case", where everything works as it should, and it supports everything that the user needs. 2) Linux is way way way less likely to just change something and break the whole system while the user is sleeping. (This was REAL fun with my grandparents-in-law…

The update policy is the right choice. I have come across so many people who were he always was too clever by half and disabled security updates for all kinds of incoherent reasons. To "stop spying", "keep out NSA" or because they were afraid their cracked Windows version would go poof.

Keeping billions of unpatched devices is disastrous form the point of view of malware.

Re: Termux and Android 10

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Post by thekyle »

zozbot234 wrote: post #238
thekyle wrote: post #232

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The other day I was trying to find a QR code scanning app in Google Play for my mother. I honestly cannot blame people for ending up with a phone full or spyware since basically all the top results were garbage. I ended up searching for "qr reader foss" which got me some decent apps.

Doesn't Android support QR scanning in the stock Camera app anyway? You shouldn't even need to take a photo, it should detect the QR pattern and give you the option of reading/copying/browsing to it.

I thought so too since it does that on my Galaxy A50, but apparently it doesn't work on the default camera for the Galaxy S8.
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