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You really trust the US court system to be impartial? Should Apple/Google be forced to carry pornographic apps? White supremacists apps? Apps that invade people’s privacy? Which government should hold this responsibility? Should we have an international committee deciding this?
> Should Apple/Google be forced to carry pornographic apps? White supremacists apps? Apps that invade people’s privacy? Which government should hold this responsibility? Should we have an international committee deciding this? We already have a situation in which two companies effectively decide what can go on anyone's cellphone (sideloading is not and will not be a meaningful solution for any more than a fraction of…
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#442This is the result of out-sourcing juristic work to private companies: If we treat Android, Window, Twitter, Facebook, as public spaces/goods, then private companies should not have a say in what is allowed/not-allowed on their platforms. This is work for the courts and police to decide and enforce. If we treat those platforms as private. Then we are playing in s/o's backyard. You are totally at their mercy. They hav…
Centralized walled gardens are going to face this no matter what policy they have. Too loose? They run afoul of laws and offend people. Too strict? They develop a reputation for censorship and offend people. There is no way they can win. That's why everything has to go decentralized, encrypted, headless, and amorphous. The endpoint should be the end of platforms in favor of protocols and interfaces to those protocols…
Yes, they can win. The problem isn't that you're "too loose" or "too strict". The problem is that you have different users with different views of whether the same things is acceptable. You win by restricting your user base to people who agree on what should and shouldn't be allowed.
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It’s even worse. They care about their own ideologies that are often at odds with mine. The difference is that it is much easier to not be beholden to the private corporations you mentioned than the government. Private corporations don’t have the power of the state to take away my liberty, property or life.
You do realize the context of this conversation, correct? We're not talking about your liberty, property, or life. We're talking about apps on a smartphone or tablet. > Private corporations don’t have the power [] to take away my liberty, property or life. No, they can only demand you come in for overtime, require you to move where they want you to, or force you to come in while sick, at the risk of taking away your…
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But you don’t have to ask Google permission to install software. So why are people asking for intervention in this case? Choice is amazing. You had a choice to buy into Apple’s “walled garden” or buy an Android. You didn’t need the nanny state to make that choice for you.
You sort of do: before you sideload an app, you have to toggle a switch, agreeing that you are going to do something potentially unsafe . In the similar arrogant manner, they care about your safety purging Podcast Addict app, like parenting you. The best solution would be an emergence of an Android fork and the corresponding platform, but this seems unlikely due to enormous (as in 100bn perhaps) startup capital requi…
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The problem is that they have to act across borders. Examples: In the EU you don't need to filter pornography the same way as in the US. In the US you don't need to filter personal information (eg individuals' faces) the same way as in the EU. Or does Google need to ban insults of the Thai king? Which legislation should apply? Already now China has split the global internet in a China and non-China part...
> they have to act across borders. They don’t have to , they choose to , in the name of growth. If New York Times decided to operate in China too, deliver news in chinese about China, they would have the same problem.
Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content
#447This is the result of out-sourcing juristic work to private companies: If we treat Android, Window, Twitter, Facebook, as public spaces/goods, then private companies should not have a say in what is allowed/not-allowed on their platforms. This is work for the courts and police to decide and enforce. If we treat those platforms as private. Then we are playing in s/o's backyard. You are totally at their mercy. They hav…
Telcos are private. They are not allowed to disconnect calls when people are talking about things they don't like. They are not allowed to drop accounts for organizations saying things they don't like. Electric companies are mostly private. They are not allowed to cut off electricity to people/orgs that say things they don't like.
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You sort of do: before you sideload an app, you have to toggle a switch, agreeing that you are going to do something potentially unsafe . In the similar arrogant manner, they care about your safety purging Podcast Addict app, like parenting you. The best solution would be an emergence of an Android fork and the corresponding platform, but this seems unlikely due to enormous (as in 100bn perhaps) startup capital requi…
Yes, so would you rather Google not warn users of the possible danger?
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#449The worst acts by powerful organizations are almost always done under the guise of 'helping people'. Nobody oppresses you for the sake of oppression. They'll do it under the banner of some good intentions.
Google shows why merely collecting the smartest minds from around the world in one place is not good enough on its own. They need proper leadership and strong values to guide them ... two things Google has long lacked.
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> they have to act across borders. They don’t have to , they choose to , in the name of growth. If New York Times decided to operate in China too, deliver news in chinese about China, they would have the same problem.
What? The New York Times does deliver news in Chinese about China. Has done for quite a while.