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Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Just tried it on a video about WHO and Bruce Alyward. It's still up after 6 minutes. Either we're inundating their censor bot, it's been shadowbanned, or Google has stopped under the flak. I'll keep checking later.

Try looking at your comment in an Incognito window and sort by new. You'll still see your own comment if you're logged in, but you won't see it otherwise. I just tried this.

It's still up after two hours: https://imgur.com/a/9x0Yvyc

I just tested it via two methods:

1) VPN'ed into work with Firefox in Private Mode (I posted from Brave)

2) Had a friend test it. He's on Chrome from a different city.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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With all that blood on their hands, they'd better be careful in handling the check or else the bank won't be able to read the routing number.

Imagine thinking anything Google does comes close to resembling having blood on its hands. It really seems to me that the first world doesn't have enough real problems on its hands.

Especially any individual Googler

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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I don’t understand the shock here, Google doesn’t even allow for Taiwan to be considered a country on its search page. When you search for Taiwan it shows the map picture and says ‘Taiwan’, but Germany for instance shows the map picture and says ‘Germany Country in Europe’. This is the very top of the page on the mobile layout. Doing things to avoid disgruntling the CCP is standard operating procedure for Google at this point.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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What if moderation of hate speech is part of the product?

How do you moderate something you can't define?

Hate speech can be defined. Of course, not everyone will agree on the definition, but that's beside the point.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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> I’m genuinely asking because where I live it’s impossible to buy stuff that wasn’t made in China. So wait, now buying something that was made in China means condoning the CCP? That's a pretty big jump in logic.

Similar to the jump that working on the YouTube moderation toolkit is condoning the CCP, yes.

Or any other department at Google apparently

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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This is the perennial discussion on HN as HN'ers get popularity confused with monopoly. I get the anti-Google sentiment but outside of the Play services agreements that Google got dinged for with Android manufacturers, they're not being anti-competitive. If Google were to block search results to DuckDuckGo for example, that would be monopolistic and warrant antitrust action. As it is now, Google isn't blocking compet…

Google has and does block competition, and they've attracted the attention of antitrust regulators for this on multiple occasions.

>Google has and does block competition

Can you share some of these occasions?

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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It is not just monopolistic control of their specific areas of interest. They have had pretty tight integration with the State Department, especially under the previous administration, getting involved in negotiations and all kinds of affairs: https://wikileaks.org/google-is-not-what-it-seems (quote from there): > Google is getting WH [White House] and State Dept support and air cover. In reality they are doing thing…

Wikileaks? Really? This isn’t /r/conspiracy. Find a better source.

Are you saying the document quoted is not real? Sure, the scruples of the site may not be in alignment with yours, but if the data is valid...

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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I think a more fundamental problem is a single private company having a near-monopoly on various public communication channels, and having financial interests in various global dictatorships. The Founding Fathers could not have predicted this. Google's "We're a private company" get-out-jail-free card cannot continue to apply.

That would be why the US Justice department is looking at an antitrust suit, Anti-trust is the remedy that came about in 1890 when the Standard Oil trust seemed unstoppable.

That said, I see this sort of thing a bit differently.

If Google is all powerful and a monopoly and never in danger of being killed, why comply with an authoritarian foreign nation to remove comments that are amplifying an anti-government sentiment? Why should Google care if the government of China is feeling a bit insecure about their own population's loyalty?

I worked at Google during "China Debacle #1", where Google went to China as an uncensored search engine, left in the middle of China Debacle #2, when China infiltrated Google's infrastructure to use it to track dissidents, and watched from the outside (as many here did) for China Debacle #3, when Google tried to create a censored search engine for China.

Why does Google need China so badly, that they are willing to compromise their values (debacle #3 and this comment censoring behavior)?

I don't think you need the antitrust legislation. I think Google is slowly dying and as they die their ideals wash away. Clean user experience, gone, Useful free services with return only positive feelings for the brand, gone. Employee perks, fading away. Lofty slogans of not being evil, gone.

This compliance, sometimes forced by edict in the EU's antitrust case, sometimes forced by coercion, tells me that Google isn't powerful, it is weak. It has lost its way and may not survive if it is unable to find its way back to something good.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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I think a more fundamental problem is a single private company having a near-monopoly on various public communication channels, and having financial interests in various global dictatorships. The Founding Fathers could not have predicted this. Google's "We're a private company" get-out-jail-free card cannot continue to apply.

Not that long ago, capability (yes, some dictionarys show also; skill, appearance, behaivior and other around orchestrated topics ^^) btt: capability wons importance, cos growing globalisation and toughening competition - in terms of the commerce, with shorter product life cycles, higher complexity and much more influences.

In such a environment, a premise for life is a permanent monitoring on all levels of performance, to have the option to bring on steering and governance, if a discrepancy in goal-reaching or goal-setting occurs.

no, that was'nt english enough, let me try better:

"'Sharks' are speaking of 'satisfied' when a half of the profits result by dividends and from Performance."

Exploiting the central-bank-agitation

so big on a global scale, more in detailed,... now you...

Do you want to continue to support art, like 'google will eat itself'? (-;

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