Termux and Android 10
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Termux and Android 10
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Re: Termux and Android 10
#2Please refrain from using titles that are more alarmist than the original title. If linking to something with an alarmist title (not the case here!), use a more neutral headline for your submission.
Re: Termux and Android 10
#3Please refrain from using titles that are more alarmist than the original title. If linking to something with an alarmist title (not the case here!), use a more neutral headline for your submission.
Google employee reporting?
Re: Termux and Android 10
#4I'm really starting to despise most OS's for having such an overbearing security policy. I think it's really why I've stuck with Windows for so long. For sure Windows is not as user-stupid as something like macOS, iOS, Android, etc... but for me as a power user it's just about as powerful as I need to be.
I'm not even considering *nix distros here because honestly the market for every day users for something like Ubuntu or Mint is really small, and those are possibly the most end-user friendly.
I hate that macOS is starting to go the iOS route of only letting me run applications that are Apple certified. No, I do not want to open system preferences every time I want to launch something. I am a power user. Put it behind some shell command or something... but have it easily documented and marketed towards people like me.
At least we can still sideload with Android. Some changes to the API like this those are just so annoying. Yeah there's going to be some apps that just need pretty much unlimited access to my device. But that's OK. I've accepted that.
Re: Termux and Android 10
#5Please refrain from using titles that are more alarmist than the original title. If linking to something with an alarmist title (not the case here!), use a more neutral headline for your submission.
I don't think it's very alarmist or an overstatement though. An android 10 app is no longer allowed to do what termux does.
I guess with more reading they are saying they need to declare themselves as targeting android 9 or lower until they find a solution. At some point, I imagine, that will not be an option.
To some degree it should also be on Google to ensure that tightening security (or perceived tightening of security) doesn't break valid use cases.
edit: Ok, for some reason I can't reply, but I see the workaround is to write to another directory.
Re: Termux and Android 10
#6Please refrain from using titles that are more alarmist than the original title. If linking to something with an alarmist title (not the case here!), use a more neutral headline for your submission.
I don't think it's very alarmist or an overstatement though. An android 10 app is no longer allowed to do what termux does. I guess with more reading they are saying they need to declare themselves as targeting android 9 or lower until they find a solution. At some point, I imagine, that will not be an option. To some degree it should also be on Google to ensure that tightening security (or perceived tightening of se…
From my brief reading it sounds like they have a solution and there's no danger of it stopping working.
In any case - don't editorialize in your titles.
Re: Termux and Android 10
#7I'm really starting to despise most OS's for having such an overbearing security policy. I think it's really why I've stuck with Windows for so long. For sure Windows is not as user-stupid as something like macOS, iOS, Android, etc... but for me as a power user it's just about as powerful as I need to be. I'm not even considering *nix distros here because honestly the market for every day users for something like Ubu…
> No, I do not want to open system preferences every time I want to launch something. I am a power user.
You don't have to. Right click on the icon and select 'open.'
https://support.apple.com/en-gu/guide/mac-help/mh40616/10.15...
Re: Termux and Android 10
#8I'm really starting to despise most OS's for having such an overbearing security policy. I think it's really why I've stuck with Windows for so long. For sure Windows is not as user-stupid as something like macOS, iOS, Android, etc... but for me as a power user it's just about as powerful as I need to be. I'm not even considering *nix distros here because honestly the market for every day users for something like Ubu…
> For sure Windows is not as user-stupid as something like macOS, iOS, Android, etc... but for me as a power user it's just about as powerful as I need to be.
I guess it depends on what kind of "power user" you are because windows is pretty limited (why else would they frankestein an Ubuntu terminal into the latest Windows versions?).
Re: Termux and Android 10
#9Please refrain from using titles that are more alarmist than the original title. If linking to something with an alarmist title (not the case here!), use a more neutral headline for your submission.
I don't think it's very alarmist or an overstatement though. An android 10 app is no longer allowed to do what termux does. I guess with more reading they are saying they need to declare themselves as targeting android 9 or lower until they find a solution. At some point, I imagine, that will not be an option. To some degree it should also be on Google to ensure that tightening security (or perceived tightening of se…
It's still possible, you just have to dance around a little more
In one project we work around this by shipping a tiny wrapper in the APK to exec that then uses dlopen() on the target, which is now built as a library.
Pretty sure a generic hack could be made to run unmodified executables this way. Certainly in the security community userland ELF loaders are very old news, even X11R6 had its own at one point
Re: Termux and Android 10
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think it's very alarmist or an overstatement though. An android 10 app is no longer allowed to do what termux does. I guess with more reading they are saying they need to declare themselves as targeting android 9 or lower until they find a solution. At some point, I imagine, that will not be an option. To some degree it should also be on Google to ensure that tightening security (or perceived tightening of se…
From my brief reading it sounds like they have a solution and there's no danger of it stopping working. In any case - don't editorialize in your titles.
You might call this a solution, but I disagree:
https://github.com/termux/termux-app/issues/1072#issuecommen...
"As i said on another issue, you should really start communicating this to users now , via as many channels as you can. I understand why you are doing what you do, but it is a big change and will annoy and/or confuse users however will you implement it. so getting people prepared now (ie as soon as possible, and before they have to do anything) will avoid a lot of angst and be in your best interests."
The "solution" is to publish 100s of different play store apps with Linux packages or to disable the ability to run installed programs.