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Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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There was a previous unrelated discussion about this just a few hours ago which was climbing to the top of the front page when I saw it. And then just vanished: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23221264 It's not flagged, it just went from #13 on the front page to invisible. In a single refresh. How does that work? Looking at the votes and age, it should be in the top 5 of both Ask and the front page. What's the m…

Earlier today, a post linking to this article vanished: https://wmbriggs.com/post/30833/ . It was generating upvotes and discussion.

Perception is reality. If you control what portions of reality the public is allowed to see, you can control their minds and their behavior.

The primary behaviors that need controlling are adherence to authoritarian dictates, and voting.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

#393

I think a more fundamental problem is a single private company having a near-monopoly on various public communication channels, and having financial interests in various global dictatorships. The Founding Fathers could not have predicted this. Google's "We're a private company" get-out-jail-free card cannot continue to apply.

> having a near-monopoly on various public communication channels Since when did Google became the defacto public communication channel?

I would say from approximately 2008

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

#394

Imagine you posting “nazi bandits” on a WW2 video and seeing it vanish after 15s. We in the IT community need to disassociate with google as much as we possibly can. Free speech is more important than ever.

The CCP is not the same as nazis. This is silly.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

#395

There was a previous unrelated discussion about this just a few hours ago which was climbing to the top of the front page when I saw it. And then just vanished: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23221264 It's not flagged, it just went from #13 on the front page to invisible. In a single refresh. How does that work? Looking at the votes and age, it should be in the top 5 of both Ask and the front page. What's the m…

YCombinator has a financial incentive to support the Chinese regime.

Good to be aware of that.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

#396

There was a previous unrelated discussion about this just a few hours ago which was climbing to the top of the front page when I saw it. And then just vanished: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23221264 It's not flagged, it just went from #13 on the front page to invisible. In a single refresh. How does that work? Looking at the votes and age, it should be in the top 5 of both Ask and the front page. What's the m…

This is where I draw my line. I will not be using HN anymore

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

#397
I am kind of surprised (and worried) that anyone is surprised by this. YouTube has always been known for very heavy moderation. This is only about comments but they also delete tons of videos without any explanation. If the creator is big enough they can cause some outrage in Twitter and get YouTube's "offical" attention and then maybe they will fix it. Otherwise you are out of luck. I wish there was some alternative platform creators could switch to.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Similar happens with the name "Eric Ciaramella", which YouTube instantly deletes. This is a name of a CIA whistle blower. It would be interesting to know what other words are in the YouTube censor list.

Interesting, but there is a pretty clear difference between censorship to protect an individual and censorship of critisising a government.

Are we playing "what censorship is OK censorship" now? Who determines that "pretty clear difference?" Isn't the point of being against censorship is that nothing is above the interests of public scrutiny? Partial censorship seems fundamentally contradictory in terms of the underlying moral justification.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

#400

I think a more fundamental problem is a single private company having a near-monopoly on various public communication channels, and having financial interests in various global dictatorships. The Founding Fathers could not have predicted this. Google's "We're a private company" get-out-jail-free card cannot continue to apply.

But is it replaced with "I'm an American company?" There's a deep rabbit-hole of hyper-nationalism right next to the deep rabbit-hole of hyper-corporatism. Does a YouTube beholden to the US government get banned from being used in China at all? And if it does, what happens when China creates a competing product that is more successful than YouTube, and YouTube gets displaced globally by a product that is beholden to…

Wikipedia is the way to go.

Why have the hypercorporatists and hypernationalists not replaced it???

Because fuckers in both those camps think it has to make money as a condition to exist. It's their weakness. Requires imagination to exploit.

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