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Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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post #286

At this point: I wish they’d just take a stronger stance and ban everything they don’t like. Just ban the political party they don’t like, ban anything that speaks out against China, just ban it all. We need to go back to the web, where anybody could install Apache and off they went. Bandwidth is cheap now. BitTorrent exists. I hope google and twitter and Facebook and all the rest just hurry up with all this. Some ot…

ban the political party they don't like?

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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If you are an end user who would like to avoid getting caught in this situation, you might want to switch to using F-Droid [0] as your primary source of Android software. The selection is more limited, but because everything is open source and distributed outside of Google's walled garden, you can be sure that it won't be arbitrarily removed because of the whims of corporate bureaucracy. I write this not as a dogmati…

How does f-droid police "shovelware and spyware"? Or just outright malware? Surely they will remove it? In which case your favourite app might be "arbitrarily removed"?

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Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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I use Podcast Addict every day, I would even say that is my most used app on android. I work listening to podcasts and PA is the best app for those who like highly customizable software. You can change almost everything. Its sad that we are in a situation where a company can dictate what we can install on our computers/smartphones. I know we can sideload apps on android, but the majority of users doesn't care about t…

> dictate what we can install on our computers/smartphones Can they though? Android does not make it difficult at all to install apps through stores other than their own Play Store. A quick internet search reveals that there are at least a dozen other options for users to download apps to Android phones. I agree that a devices OS should allow alternative means to install apps, but Android has clearly done this.

I agree with you on that, Android is far less hostile to installing software outside of the store than iOS.

The problem is, if the developer wants its software to reach the wide audience of the platform, its a obvious choice for him to use what the users perceive as the "official way" of installing software. Sure, you can offer both ways, but if your app is missing from the official store, the majority of users won't even know it exists.

IMHO we, as users and developers, have our share of the blame for problems like this one, and we should be vigilant so Android doesn't become like iOS.

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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This is the result of out-sourcing juristic work to private companies: If we treat Android, Window, Twitter, Facebook, as public spaces/goods, then private companies should not have a say in what is allowed/not-allowed on their platforms. This is work for the courts and police to decide and enforce. If we treat those platforms as private. Then we are playing in s/o's backyard. You are totally at their mercy. They hav…

>>If we treat those platforms as private. Then we are playing in s/o's backyard. You are totally at their mercy.>>

I don't know what "s/o" means but assuming it means the operator of the platform, no, you are not at their mercy, they are at yours. Just go use another platform. If, in practical terms, there are no other platforms for the thing you want, then that's a different problem.

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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This is the result of out-sourcing juristic work to private companies: If we treat Android, Window, Twitter, Facebook, as public spaces/goods, then private companies should not have a say in what is allowed/not-allowed on their platforms. This is work for the courts and police to decide and enforce. If we treat those platforms as private. Then we are playing in s/o's backyard. You are totally at their mercy. They hav…

>>If we treat those platforms as private. Then we are playing in s/o's backyard. You are totally at their mercy.>> I don't know what "s/o" means but assuming it means the operator of the platform, no, you are not at their mercy, they are at yours. Just go use another platform. If, in practical terms, there are no other platforms for the thing you want, then that's a different problem.

I think "someone"

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found this very quickly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgln8rjuIMU&feature=share

I didn't say their algorithm was flawless, just that they are removing content. Here's a few citations: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52388586 https://fee.org/articles/youtube-to-ban-content-that-contrad... https://www.theblaze.com/news/youtube-will-remove-any-corona... https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/youtube-ramps-up-actio... These haven't been cherry picked, they're the top 4 results on a DDG search. Yo…

The one I linked is from a Swedish conspiracy theory channel with 16k subscribers and it has been up for 2 months, gotten 40k views (huge for Swedish language content) and does not try to hide itself at all ("WakeUpGlobe SE" and uses "corona" in the title). It would be trivial for a human to find this.

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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post #381
post #286

At this point: I wish they’d just take a stronger stance and ban everything they don’t like. Just ban the political party they don’t like, ban anything that speaks out against China, just ban it all. We need to go back to the web, where anybody could install Apache and off they went. Bandwidth is cheap now. BitTorrent exists. I hope google and twitter and Facebook and all the rest just hurry up with all this. Some ot…

ban the political party they don't like?

Make their bias really obvious like we have for the major media companies so consumers can make an easy choice.

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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This is like Google banning the YouTube app from the play store for having videos about covid that aren't from government sources. Insane stuff.

How is it that this live feed is allowed?

"Coronavirus Live Map and realtime counter - Latest worldwide COVID-19 stats and figures." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRy5_KpPxyM

And there're tons more when you search "covid 19 stats" in YT

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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I'm impressed they actually gave a reason, what happened to "please RTFM for our terms and conditions" and "sorry I have given all the information I have, there is nothing more I can do, appeal denied"

Example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23223560

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