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Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by Lio »

ravenstine wrote: post #67
ddevault wrote: post #38

Google & YouTube employees on HN: how do you justify still working at this company? Enough of the cognitive dissonance. Face your choices and tell me how you square yourself with them. For shame.

It might be easy to say this, but I believe I would quit if I was asked to implement something like that. But perhaps I'd be different if I were paid $300k a year. (I sure hope not, though)

I like to think I’d take the high road but the Milgram shock experiment[1] shows that most people, including me, probably wouldn’t.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by Stratoscope »

atomashpolskiy wrote: post #147
missosoup wrote: post #41

There was a previous unrelated discussion about this just a few hours ago which was climbing to the top of the front page when I saw it. And then just vanished: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23221264 It's not flagged, it just went from #13 on the front page to invisible. In a single refresh. How does that work? Looking at the votes and age, it should be in the top 5 of both Ask and the front page. What's the m…

I've posted an AskHN about self-regulation mechanisms on HN just today and instantly got flagged: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23220998 Please upvote another attempt: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23223939

> Please upvote another attempt

FYI, you may get downvoted or flagged for asking for upvotes.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

"Don't solicit upvotes, comments, or submissions. Users should vote and comment when they run across something they find interesting—not for promotion."

(I didn't downvote or flag your comment, just wanted to let you know about the guideline.)

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by eeZah7Ux »

koheripbal wrote: post #112

I think a more fundamental problem is a single private company having a near-monopoly on various public communication channels, and having financial interests in various global dictatorships. The Founding Fathers could not have predicted this. Google's "We're a private company" get-out-jail-free card cannot continue to apply.

> a single private company having a near-monopoly on various public communication channels > The Founding Fathers could not have predicted this.

Financial, political, religious entities controlling newspapers and book publishers is a problem known (and well documented) across thousands of years.

Same for near-monopolies of means of transportation, materials, water, and other.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by duxup »

qubex wrote: post #289
duxup wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't really answer the question of that other user. Google largely has largely taken being excluded from China in stride, the other user is wondering why they would do this now.

As another user posted, there’s a long list of terms dating back to 2012, so this isn’t recent. Even the post referred to dates from the end of 2019, so it isn’t exactly novel. Google might well accept being excluded from China, but I’m assuming that the prospect of being allowed to re-enter that market is periodically dangled in front of them by the ruling party in China, and that consequentially Google has an ongoi…

I get that but that's just conjecture right?

As far as China disconnecting from Android or forking it... that seems inevitable. Deleting some comment's wont change that.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by insickness »

missosoup wrote: post #41

There was a previous unrelated discussion about this just a few hours ago which was climbing to the top of the front page when I saw it. And then just vanished: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23221264 It's not flagged, it just went from #13 on the front page to invisible. In a single refresh. How does that work? Looking at the votes and age, it should be in the top 5 of both Ask and the front page. What's the m…

Earlier today, a post linking to this article vanished: https://wmbriggs.com/post/30833/. It was generating upvotes and discussion.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by shadowgovt »

socrates1998 wrote: post #245

I can't fathom how private companies still think that they can make the CCP happy AND their western customers. The CCP holds values that are completely untenable to western values. As time goes on, companies who don't know this will lose massive brand value in the western world. The NBA has managed to tight rope this so far, but I doubt they can hold it together for very much longer. The CCP is still calling for the…

Actually it's super-easy; barely an inconvenience.

Most Western customers really do not care. Like, really-really. The default attitude is "Well, China has its rules and the Western nations have theirs. They can get along." Leaks between rulesets are relatively rare in the sea of regular day-to-day operations.

And honestly, I don't think the CCP's goals are as far different from the goals of, say, the US government's as some believe. The countries are trading buddies. They're both empires with a number of citizens that is too-big-a-number-to-visualize-in-one's-head. If they ever came into direct conflict, these differences would start to put Western-headquartered countries in difficult positions, but that's not the current state of things.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by scep12 »

ddevault wrote: post #277
ajconway wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you justify being a citizen of your country? (not sure what country that is, but most of them have done bad things in the past). It's possible to be a part of a large organization and not agree with its every action.

I have much less mobility as a US citizen to move to another country than I have as a software engineer. Almost any Google employee could have an offer somewhere else within 3 weeks of starting their search.

You couldn't move to Canada easily?

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Post by scbrg »

ajconway wrote: post #173
ddevault wrote: post #38

Google & YouTube employees on HN: how do you justify still working at this company? Enough of the cognitive dissonance. Face your choices and tell me how you square yourself with them. For shame.

How do you justify being a citizen of your country? (not sure what country that is, but most of them have done bad things in the past). It's possible to be a part of a large organization and not agree with its every action.

To begin with, citizenship is forced upon you. You don't have a choice about it. Yes, you can (in some cases) renounce it, though that's quite a momentous task - it involved pretty much cancelling your existing life, and takes many years. And as you say - most other countries may be worse - and the ones that aren't may not accept you either way.

Not working for Google, in particular, is extremely easy. Something that roughly 99.999% of the world's population succeeds at without even trying :-) And most people who are working for Google are also likely to be able to find another job quite easily.

The two are not comparable. At all. In any way or form.

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Post by scep12 »

ddevault wrote: post #91
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Laughing all the way to the bank... It justifies the behavior to people who think for themselves and not for some intangible global internet community. i'm not trolling.

With all that blood on their hands, they'd better be careful in handling the check or else the bank won't be able to read the routing number.

Blood? Citation required.

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Post by duxup »

atomashpolskiy wrote: post #279
atomashpolskiy wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've posted an AskHN about self-regulation mechanisms on HN just today and instantly got flagged: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23220998 Please upvote another attempt: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23223939

New submission has 13 points in 21 minutes and still not displayed on front or "ask" page. How come?

What is supposed to get something on the 'ask' page? I've found things that ... I suspect never showed up on the ask page.
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