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Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by shadowgovt »

ddevault wrote: post #38

Google & YouTube employees on HN: how do you justify still working at this company? Enough of the cognitive dissonance. Face your choices and tell me how you square yourself with them. For shame.

"To organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful."

"The world's" doesn't mean "The part of the world we like most." "Universally" doesn't mean "Nobody in China gets to use our system until the Chinese government adopts Western notions of information control."

Google would operate in North Korea if it could, because as a point of philosophy, it's believed that access to more informtion, even curtailed by the government, is better than access to only information controlled by the government.

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Post by toolz »

koheripbal wrote: post #112

I think a more fundamental problem is a single private company having a near-monopoly on various public communication channels, and having financial interests in various global dictatorships. The Founding Fathers could not have predicted this. Google's "We're a private company" get-out-jail-free card cannot continue to apply.

We have loads of communication channel alternatives. People freely choose google and should be allowed to continue freely choosing whatever platform they please. The idea that some governing body can better choose my communication platform for my personal needs than I can for myself doesn't seem logical from my point of view.

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Post by ajconway »

ddevault wrote: post #38

Google & YouTube employees on HN: how do you justify still working at this company? Enough of the cognitive dissonance. Face your choices and tell me how you square yourself with them. For shame.

How do you justify being a citizen of your country? (not sure what country that is, but most of them have done bad things in the past). It's possible to be a part of a large organization and not agree with its every action.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by stri8ed »

haram_masala wrote: post #47

Why would Google do this, though? They seem to have mostly ceded the Chinese market.

The most charitable explanation would be, that this phrase is considered derogatory and offensive towards some, akin to say the N-word, and they have banned it on those grounds. Seems unlikely though.

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

At the risk of being branded insufficiently anti-chinese, anti-communist, or overly suspicious: I don't believe it.

I mean obviously I believe putting the comment in youtube will get it deleted. I just don't necessarily believe it means what it says or the reasoning is because Google is pro-China.

First off, 15 seconds all the time means automatic deletion. Is this really a common enough phrase that they have automatic deletion set up for communist bandits, how about communist yak-fuckers? That sounds pretty unlikely to be set to catch that phrase, so maybe it would just be caught by an automatic sentiment/profanity analysis. How about just yak-fuckers, how about bandits? I'm not going to try all these out myself because

I don't have the linguistic expertise to know if that ideograph means communist bandits, I do have some co-workers I could ask I guess, maybe tomorrow.

Everyone is asking about the phrase in other google services, well in Google translate it translates it as Gangsters when I go to English and Italian. The second one is pretty suspicious because Gangster isn't an Italian word but that's what it gave me a couple minutes ago.

I guess I will wait until later to see how this pans out before getting my rage fully on. rage cautiously in prep stage for now.

on edit: fixed some grammar.

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Post by [deleted] »

ddevault wrote: post #91
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Laughing all the way to the bank... It justifies the behavior to people who think for themselves and not for some intangible global internet community. i'm not trolling.

With all that blood on their hands, they'd better be careful in handling the check or else the bank won't be able to read the routing number.

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Post by jpxw »

gabaix wrote: post #63

Youtube is in a tough spot. They will be blamed: - if they don't take down speech some consider hateful - if they take down speech some do not consider hateful 共匪 is seen as an insult by a group, but others do not. If Youtube bans nothing, then hate speech thrives and they get bad PR. If Youtube bans anything anyone flags as hate speech, then they become de facto as censorship agents for foreign powers. Anything crit…

The words “communist bandit” are not “hate speech”. This is ridiculous. How infantilised have we become these days?

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by buckminstrix »

missosoup wrote: post #41

There was a previous unrelated discussion about this just a few hours ago which was climbing to the top of the front page when I saw it. And then just vanished: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23221264 It's not flagged, it just went from #13 on the front page to invisible. In a single refresh. How does that work? Looking at the votes and age, it should be in the top 5 of both Ask and the front page. What's the m…

Don't worry. There'll be an "innocent" explanation. There always is. Mods here "can do no wrong." And when they do...well, it just puff it disappears (as in they ignore it.)
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