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Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by teknologist » Mon, May 18, 2020, 3:48 PM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #136

virvar wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you buy hardware? I’m genuinely asking because where I live it’s impossible to buy stuff that wasn’t made in China. It’s almost impossible to lead en ethical life in this day and age if you do anything related to tech.

> I’m genuinely asking because where I live it’s impossible to buy stuff that wasn’t made in China. So wait, now buying something that was made in China means condoning the CCP? That's a pretty big jump in logic.

The CCP’s claim to legitimacy is based on continued economic growth in the PRC.

Buying made in China products supports this economic growth, and also the cheap, often exploitative, labor that went into producing them.

Besides, you should probably support the local manufacturing industry wherever you’re living.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by lenkite » Mon, May 18, 2020, 3:48 PM UTC

gabaix wrote: post #63

Youtube is in a tough spot. They will be blamed: - if they don't take down speech some consider hateful - if they take down speech some do not consider hateful 共匪 is seen as an insult by a group, but others do not. If Youtube bans nothing, then hate speech thrives and they get bad PR. If Youtube bans anything anyone flags as hate speech, then they become de facto as censorship agents for foreign powers. Anything crit…

Any opinion in this world can be categorised as hate speech.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by jpxw » Mon, May 18, 2020, 3:48 PM UTC

ThrowawayBandit wrote: post #115

dkdk8283 wrote: post #12

Very unfortunate - should be able to critique anything and not be censored.

To critique is not to insult. They don't prevent you from criticising anything. They are only trying to remove insults.

I’m assuming this is bait/trolling, given this is being posted by an anonymous throwaway. If not, you are utterly ridiculous.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by stri8ed » Mon, May 18, 2020, 3:49 PM UTC

RodgerTheGreat wrote: post #43

self_awareness wrote: post #14

Just tried it, and after 30 seconds it was deleted

I hope your youtube account isn't linked to a gmail account you consider important.

This is the first time I am seriously considering leaving Gmail. Seems like a royal pain in the ass to switch though, since you don't "own" your email handle like you would a domain.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by fastball » Mon, May 18, 2020, 3:49 PM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #136

virvar wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you buy hardware? I’m genuinely asking because where I live it’s impossible to buy stuff that wasn’t made in China. It’s almost impossible to lead en ethical life in this day and age if you do anything related to tech.

> I’m genuinely asking because where I live it’s impossible to buy stuff that wasn’t made in China. So wait, now buying something that was made in China means condoning the CCP? That's a pretty big jump in logic.

Is it? You are effectively funding the CCP every time you purchase something from China.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by BoorishBears » Mon, May 18, 2020, 3:49 PM UTC

atomashpolskiy wrote: post #147

missosoup wrote: post #41

There was a previous unrelated discussion about this just a few hours ago which was climbing to the top of the front page when I saw it. And then just vanished: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23221264 It's not flagged, it just went from #13 on the front page to invisible. In a single refresh. How does that work? Looking at the votes and age, it should be in the top 5 of both Ask and the front page. What's the m…

I've posted an AskHN about self-regulation mechanisms on HN just today and instantly got flagged: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23220998 Please upvote another attempt: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23223939

I remember seeing an exchange where a moderator seemed to be able to edit another person's comment well after the edit period with no indication an edit was made.

Kind of hope I misunderstood the exchange, but if that's the case that instantly undermines any possible claim to being "ultimate place on the Web to discover and discuss bleeding-edge content"

In general HN is not that place anyways. People here confuse meekness with civility. It's ok to tear someone apart with ad hominem attacks as long as you don't sound too passionate in doing so. "You're being dumb" not ok. "You're being silly", totally ok.

I know I got rate limited and I'm pretty sure it's the over that time I had the audacity to talk back to a moderator

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Look at this comment even, if you go against the hivemind your content gets flagged/buried in about 5 seconds

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by cronix » Mon, May 18, 2020, 3:49 PM UTC

humaid wrote: post #59

Similar happens with the name "Eric Ciaramella", which YouTube instantly deletes. This is a name of a CIA whistle blower. It would be interesting to know what other words are in the YouTube censor list.

Facebook deletes posts with that name in it as well. You're not allowed, even if the name appears in "main steam" press. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/11/11/face-n11.html

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by sysashi » Mon, May 18, 2020, 3:49 PM UTC

ecmascript wrote: post #92

gabaix wrote: post #63

Youtube is in a tough spot. They will be blamed: - if they don't take down speech some consider hateful - if they take down speech some do not consider hateful 共匪 is seen as an insult by a group, but others do not. If Youtube bans nothing, then hate speech thrives and they get bad PR. If Youtube bans anything anyone flags as hate speech, then they become de facto as censorship agents for foreign powers. Anything crit…

Fuck the CCP and Russia. This just shows Google is fine with censorship as long as they can profit from it.

please don't mistake political party with a country

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by CamelCaseName » Mon, May 18, 2020, 3:50 PM UTC

humaid wrote: post #59

Similar happens with the name "Eric Ciaramella", which YouTube instantly deletes. This is a name of a CIA whistle blower. It would be interesting to know what other words are in the YouTube censor list.

Wow.

No Wikipedia articles on him either, and reports of people getting permanently banned from Wikipedia for trying to create that article, or even mentioning him in another.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by warranty » Mon, May 18, 2020, 3:50 PM UTC

ddevault wrote: post #38

Google & YouTube employees on HN: how do you justify still working at this company? Enough of the cognitive dissonance. Face your choices and tell me how you square yourself with them. For shame.

We don’t care. We get top of the line money for tapping on computers all day.. big mansions.. cars .. lifetime of financial security and free food & booze so lol who cares.