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Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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There was a previous unrelated discussion about this just a few hours ago which was climbing to the top of the front page when I saw it. And then just vanished: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23221264 It's not flagged, it just went from #13 on the front page to invisible. In a single refresh. How does that work? Looking at the votes and age, it should be in the top 5 of both Ask and the front page. What's the m…

YCombinator has a financial incentive to support the Chinese regime.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

#102

its really sad to see Google kowtow to China. i guess money trump everything. a free, open and democratic China is Taiwan. you can see it by Taiwan's handling of covid 19. they are open about their cases, allowed press to ask unlimited questions and show everything to Taiwanese and not conceal any info. its sad that Western companies love money more than the Western values that they always talk about. "Don't be evil"

Wait, but China is also doing the same. Have you watched any of the press conferences in China? They were frank and forthcoming with information, there were many reddit threads applauding it until everything got politicized around March.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

#103

Google & YouTube employees on HN: how do you justify still working at this company? Enough of the cognitive dissonance. Face your choices and tell me how you square yourself with them. For shame.

Not a Google or YouTube employee, but, practically, what would change? In the most likely case, a bunch of Googlers who believe it's important to be apolitical at work would take over the product and implement much stronger censorship to get promo. In the unlikely event all of them (and every applicant drooling for a FAANG job) had a change of heart too, Tencent would gladly step into the vacuum.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they're pro-people-who-call-themselves-Communist-and-also-have-a-lot-of-geopolitical-power-and-market-share. China is most certainly a capitalist state through and through, and Google is a money-grubbing company whose sole motive is profit. It really isn't hard to talk about these things in frank terms without resorting to silly culture-war-style name-calling.

Google left the mainland Chinese market long ago and all of its services are blocked there. The most likely explanation is that some mainlander inside Google has been pushing for this with the "this is racist and hurting the feelings of the Chinese people" argument.

Or one of the business units of the CCP is putting lateral pressure on Google. Or an organized CCP/PLA operation to mass report the term.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

#106
post #73

There was a previous unrelated discussion about this just a few hours ago which was climbing to the top of the front page when I saw it. And then just vanished: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23221264 It's not flagged, it just went from #13 on the front page to invisible. In a single refresh. How does that work? Looking at the votes and age, it should be in the top 5 of both Ask and the front page. What's the m…

If this is true, follow the money. HN is run by a Venture Capital firm. What are their incentives? Who does the business have to keep happy?

I agree 100%. I've said this before and been threatened with ban by admin/mod. Anytime you go against the agenda, they prevent you for posting comments sometimes in excess of an hour. Then if you reply again and they don't like it you have to wait another hour. Nothing is transparent. They just say, no political discussion, however it only seems to apply towards comments they don't like.

It looks like the previous post was flagged, so can't even comment on it.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

#107
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this is true, follow the money. HN is run by a Venture Capital firm. What are their incentives? Who does the business have to keep happy?

> If this is true, follow the money Isn't it more likely it was flagged off the front page by overly-enthusiastic users? I'll also admit that this link, to a support thread, is more compelling than the Ask HN, where half the comments were questioning whether the phenomenon was actually happening.

It was not flagged. It was on FP in top 10, then instantly moved to 3rd page without "[flagged]" appearing in the title.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

#108
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they're pro-people-who-call-themselves-Communist-and-also-have-a-lot-of-geopolitical-power-and-market-share. China is most certainly a capitalist state through and through, and Google is a money-grubbing company whose sole motive is profit. It really isn't hard to talk about these things in frank terms without resorting to silly culture-war-style name-calling.

Google left the mainland Chinese market long ago and all of its services are blocked there. The most likely explanation is that some mainlander inside Google has been pushing for this with the "this is racist and hurting the feelings of the Chinese people" argument.

What a strange thing to say on a public forum, when we can just use Google to find information that directly contradicts your claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_China#2016%E2%80%93pres...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonfly_(search_engine)

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

#110
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this is true, follow the money. HN is run by a Venture Capital firm. What are their incentives? Who does the business have to keep happy?

> If this is true, follow the money Isn't it more likely it was flagged off the front page by overly-enthusiastic users? I'll also admit that this link, to a support thread, is more compelling than the Ask HN, where half the comments were questioning whether the phenomenon was actually happening.

Is that more likely? Should it be that easy for a user to flag an article that's trending so far upward?

If it is that easy, maybe we should discuss the flagging system because it gives the ILLUSION that it was taken down because there's a conflict of interest.

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