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Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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This is the result of out-sourcing juristic work to private companies: If we treat Android, Window, Twitter, Facebook, as public spaces/goods, then private companies should not have a say in what is allowed/not-allowed on their platforms. This is work for the courts and police to decide and enforce. If we treat those platforms as private. Then we are playing in s/o's backyard. You are totally at their mercy. They hav…

The only thing that needs to be constitutionally challenged is whether discretionary content filtering constitutes agency in publication under section 230 of the CDA.

How is that a constitutional question?

The whole point of 230 was to answer that: "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider".

Some courts had said that filtering makes the provider a publisher and liable for the content. Congress passed 230 to reverse that.

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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> Should Apple/Google be forced to carry pornographic apps? White supremacists apps? Apps that invade people’s privacy? My computer allows racist pornography and its the greatest invention in the history of mankind. As far as I can tell, iPhones have not lived up to that legacy.

Yes, but should Apple be forced to sell it? You can buy a DVD player and a TV from Walmart that allows you to view pornographic and racist content but aren’t forced to sell it.

There's a common standard for DVDs and a competitive market in them; if one maker won't sell what you want, another will. Apple should be either nationalised or broken up like Ma Bell, and the threat of the same should hang over any market where a handful of players capture enough marketshare to become a de facto cartel.

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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post #228

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It might have been correct to say there's no evidence in March (which is not a reason to not do something, we would still be in the Stone Age if every action we took required evidence.). There's plenty of evidence now as we have data for both going into and coming out of lockdown.

There's plenty of weird, contradictory evidence. Many places have come out of lockdown early, been told they're facing certain doom ("Georgia's Experiment in Human Sacrifice" [1]), and then been quietly forgotten when the predicted consequences don't come. It's hard to believe that lockdowns don't do anything at all, but I don't think anyone can honestly say we have definitive proof they were necessary. [1] https://w…

I can. R0~5.7 has dropped below 1.0 in many mask-averse stay-at-home regions, which I consider compelling evidence of efficacy in an adverse environment, under common-sense priors informed by the medical literature.

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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> Where is the proof of inefficacy? It doesn't work that way. New drugs are assumed ineffective until proven otherwise. A government official with no medical training recommending an unproven drug based on a few anecdotes is the height of irresponsibility.

Currently the studies can't tell if HCQ is effective or not because all of them have been wasted opportunities for many different reasons, from too few patients, to absence of controls, to too late administration (the NEJM paper and the Lancet paper on lopinavir/ritonavir tell important lessons on this topic). We're in the "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" territory. I would say HCQ is a "lead" in the…

> I would say HCQ is a "lead" in the pharmacological sense

Agreed. I hope it gets proven effective too. This is a hot button issue for me because a family member needs HCQ for lupus and now cannot obtain it because of the statements of said government official. His words have caused actual harm, and this isn't the first time.

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's plenty of weird, contradictory evidence. Many places have come out of lockdown early, been told they're facing certain doom ("Georgia's Experiment in Human Sacrifice" [1]), and then been quietly forgotten when the predicted consequences don't come. It's hard to believe that lockdowns don't do anything at all, but I don't think anyone can honestly say we have definitive proof they were necessary. [1] https://w…

I can. R0~5.7 has dropped below 1.0 in many mask-averse stay-at-home regions, which I consider compelling evidence of efficacy in an adverse environment, under common-sense priors informed by the medical literature.

"This number is below 1.0" is not, by itself, an argument that some particular social policy was necessary or effective. An argument that lockdowns were necessary would at a minimum need to address the questions of "would a less strict policy have sufficed" and "will the long-term outcome after lockdowns end be different".

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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post #142

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If you want to watch something one-off, some interesting tidbit outside of your curated feed then doing it in incognito mode is required, otherwise, as you noted you are doomed.

If you find it here and delete it, I think it will cease to influence your recommended videos. https://www.youtube.com/feed/history

We shouldn’t have to jump through these kinds of hoops. Their recommendation engine is smart enough to discern between a one off video watch and a genuine interest, but youtube gets stuck on recommending conspiracyland videos. It’s at the point where I just ignore the entire section as if it were ads.

I want a tool to work without having to sift through hundreds and hundreds of videos and try to guess which one caused the drift into crazy town.

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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This problem has a simple solution. Don't host your stuff with giant corporations who's only motivation is avoiding conflict and making profit.

Asking a non-dev user to manually download and install an APK might be a simple solution, but so impractical that it's almost useless in my opinion.

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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In most of these stories featuring Google abusing their power to remove apps, it's usually a matter of some automated tool gone wrong and the problem is solved a couple of days later. But this time it's different, they are actually asking developers to censor themselves if they are not affiliated with a gov.

Meh. If I left an automation roaming the streets and it ate someone’s kid I would get in trouble. If google’s automations are broken and they harm the world then they need to be responsible and fix them or replace them with people.

Uber killed Elaine Herzberg and didn't get in trouble.

Re: Google bans Podcast Addict app over non-approved Covid-19 content

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What is going on with Google? We had PushBullet being threatened with removal over vague problems just a few days ago. I don't buy the "evil monopoly" narrative as what does this accomplish for Google?

People keep trying to sue (and otherwise legally punish) Google and similar platforms for not policing their content enough.

This is the inevitable result.

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