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Re: No One Goes There Anymore

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Post by ido »

pragmatic wrote: post #300
ido wrote: post #184

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I don't buy it, due to first-hand & second-hand experiences of friends and relatives I have in the US. Let me give you one example: my friend(and at the time business partner)'s wife got cancer in the US. It was fairly "mundane"/common cancer that got treated and everything was alright at the end. He was working as a software developer (normal employee, not self-employed - our venture was a side project) with the afo…

I don't buy your story either. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Which is the extraordinary one, my friend getting handed a massive bill or me getting a small one?

It's very possible he could have haggled it down but why should you need to? Especially in a vulnerable situation like after getting out of cancer treatment.

I can guarantee you I wouldn't have had the wherewithal to fight it in his spot. I barely managed to do anything for 6 months after getting out of my own cancer treatment (and for psychological, not pyshiological reasons).

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Post by srrr »

pierrebeaucamp wrote: post #249
ido wrote: post #184

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I don't buy it, due to first-hand & second-hand experiences of friends and relatives I have in the US. Let me give you one example: my friend(and at the time business partner)'s wife got cancer in the US. It was fairly "mundane"/common cancer that got treated and everything was alright at the end. He was working as a software developer (normal employee, not self-employed - our venture was a side project) with the afo…

> I paid a grand total of ~€500 despite being self-employed at the time (so I only had standard public insurance everyone in Germany gets). IMO, this is a somewhat misleading statement as Germanys public insurance (that everyone can sign up for), costs quite a lot. Normally the employer would cover 50% of the contribution, but as you mentioned being self-employed that could easily be over 800 Euros per month. That do…

The costs for public health insurance is 14-15% of your income with a lower income bound of 1061,67€ and an upper bound of 4687,50€. Thus the minimum cost is 148€ and the maximum is 656€ (for the exact same service).

In addition you need to pay 3% Pflegeversicherung (nursing care insurance).

https://www.krankenkassen.de/gesetzliche-krankenkassen/krank...

Re: No One Goes There Anymore

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Post by onemoresoop »

dang wrote: post #266
onemoresoop wrote: post #23

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Yeah, sorry about that, i was flabbergasted as I didnt expect to make a good deed and get multiple thumbs down.

Voting is a statistical cloud, meaning you can't relate to it deterministically. There are all sorts of weird outliers for reasons you (i.e. any of us) can't understand or even imagine, so you have to let go of trying to explain particular data points. When all else fails I just remind myself that misclicks happen. This is a special case of what is in fact the biggest challenge on HN. If you try to interpret individu…

You’re absolutely right. Thanks for the time and energy in writing this response. I’ve observed your interventions over time and they are all reasonable and needed.

Re: No One Goes There Anymore

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #92
411111111111111 wrote: post #89

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Some people believe that the earth is flat as well.

Is there a venn diagram of Randians and flat-earthers somewhere? on edit: changed libertarians to Randians.

damn, I've evidently offended some flat-earthers out there.

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Post by ncmncm »

rhino369 wrote: post #273
dhimes wrote: post #241

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Makes me think they can write it off their taxes as "uncollectable."

Yes, but they also had to add 50k of uncollectable revenue. So its not really doing anything for them for their taxes. It's mostly a game played between insurance provider and medical provider. They ask for 50k--knowing it the insurance is going to low ball them.

If they write off $39k, that counts against $39k in other income they actually get that they then don't have to pay taxes on.

Re: No One Goes There Anymore

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Post by ncmncm »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #286
lonelappde wrote: post #203

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Real Talk: no one is trying to kill you for profit. They just don't care about you because you're can't make money for them. It's still bad, but different. You meet a lot of skeptics because no matter how honest or correct you are, without access to a large test population and a way to precisely measure your dozens of tiny ideas that add up to a healthier overall life, it's impossible for an outside observer to disti…

You have a lot of disappointment with HN Much realer talk: I have been here nearly 11 years. I appear to be the only woman to have ever spent time on the leader board and it looks like I am probably on track to also be the second woman to spend time on the leader board under my new handle (this one). I have my criticisms of what goes on here, but I spend so much time here because whatever sexism and nonsense happens…

I really appreciate the integrity, and am on my way over to Patreon.

But as far as I have been able to discover, colloidal silver turns your skin permanently blue-gray long before it reaches an (otherwise) toxic level. Completely useless, of course, and makes you look like a ghoul. I read of someone who had ?tens of grams in him when he died (of old age), because there is no way to excrete it.

A grey guy was running for US President not long ago. I don't know if he had any other qualifications, but can't help thinking we might be a lot better off having elected him.

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Post by DoreenMichele »

ncmncm wrote: post #306
DoreenMichele wrote: post #286

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You have a lot of disappointment with HN Much realer talk: I have been here nearly 11 years. I appear to be the only woman to have ever spent time on the leader board and it looks like I am probably on track to also be the second woman to spend time on the leader board under my new handle (this one). I have my criticisms of what goes on here, but I spend so much time here because whatever sexism and nonsense happens…

I really appreciate the integrity, and am on my way over to Patreon. But as far as I have been able to discover, colloidal silver turns your skin permanently blue-gray long before it reaches an (otherwise) toxic level. Completely useless, of course, and makes you look like a ghoul. I read of someone who had ?tens of grams in him when he died (of old age), because there is no way to excrete it. A grey guy was running…

I really appreciate the integrity, and am on my way over to Patreon.

Thank you.

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Post by vertex-four »

rayiner wrote: post #293
vertex-four wrote: post #277

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And someone not living in Berlin can live significantly cheaper too - do you want to pick a city similar to Des Moines in Germany? EDIT: I took your number of 1/2 as truth, went through the numbers, and... our worker in Des Moines makes about 5k a year more than the one in Berlin. It'd still take 12 years to pay off the person above's unexpected medical expenses. Then, after running the numbers for a high-tech worker…

> I took your number of 1/2 as truth, went through the numbers, and... our worker in Des Moines makes about 5k a year more than the one in Berlin. It'd still take 12 years to pay off the person above's unexpected medical expenses. That's probably quite accurate. But most people don't have a $60,000 unexpected health expenditure before they're eligible for Medicare at 65. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5…

> And what are you basing this on?

Talking to working-class friends in the US about their access to healthcare. They feel concerned about the price of going to their doctor about things that our doctors urge us to talk to them about. Routine, expected medical treatment often takes years of saving up, and I've had friends die before they managed to get that treatment. When people wind up with an illness requiring ongoing treatment, any additional money they might make quickly goes down the drain.

They also feel scared about losing their job, and therefore their access to healthcare, if they ever become ill enough to have to call off sick, thus compounding the problem.

Yes, it's rational when you're well-off to want to keep your money. But I'd very much prefer to make sure the people around me have real access to healthcare than that I can maybe buy a slightly nicer house.

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Post by l_davis »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #286
lonelappde wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Real Talk: no one is trying to kill you for profit. They just don't care about you because you're can't make money for them. It's still bad, but different. You meet a lot of skeptics because no matter how honest or correct you are, without access to a large test population and a way to precisely measure your dozens of tiny ideas that add up to a healthier overall life, it's impossible for an outside observer to disti…

You have a lot of disappointment with HN Much realer talk: I have been here nearly 11 years. I appear to be the only woman to have ever spent time on the leader board and it looks like I am probably on track to also be the second woman to spend time on the leader board under my new handle (this one). I have my criticisms of what goes on here, but I spend so much time here because whatever sexism and nonsense happens…

My two cents (as someone who also has a medical condition, albeit not as life threatening as yours, that is not taken seriously by many and who makes much of their living by writing) -

People don't necessarily believe what others say about their own medical condition. My doctors agree about mine, I have tangible measurable results, yet some people, both online and in real life, don't believe me. Getting spun up over that is not the most effective use of my time and energy and it may not be the best use of yours.

On getting paid, I do get paid enough to live on, but I have worked for hire and haven't put content in the internet and expected that it would get monetized. Maybe finding more ways to work for hire (which iirc you already do)? I don't know much about the Patreon model, but I checked a YouTuber I follow with a very large subscriber base as an example. His Patreon base is much smaller. If that is representative that might not be a good way to get a reliable income.

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Post by fastball »

thewebcount wrote: post #244
ryandrake wrote: post #117

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I read the whole thing and can’t figure it out either. Maybe there isn’t supposed to be a point. Just stream-of-consciousness words on a blog. Performance art? When the first thing someone tells me upon meeting me is that they have a medical condition, I think “uh oh, heeeere we go.” First of all, it’s none of my business. Second, why do you want me to know this? What am I supposed to do with that information? Is thi…

Unfortunately, for people who suffer from a chronic illness, they have to deal with people like you. You might propose something that seems simple and normal to you, like, let's go here for lunch. They have to explain they can't because they have a very real medical condition, then they have to put up with people not believing them, thinking they're blowing it out of proportion, or just not wanting to make accommodat…

Ok, but since it's a very real medical condition, why not lead with "I have Atypical Cystic Fibrosis, so I can't do X", instead of being all mysterious about it?

You can't really blame humans for being curious when you stoke but deliberately choose not to satisfy their curiosity.

I mean, HN specifically wants you to post "anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity". I don't know about others, but my intellectual curiosity certainly isn't gratified when someone leads with "I have a condition" but then gets all squirrelly about what it is.

If you tell people what your condition is and they don't take it seriously, that's their problem. If you don't tell what it is, it might be "a mild fear of puppets" for all I know. Unfortunately there are people that make up medical conditions for themselves, so you can't really expect everyone to just automatically accept "I have this condition" as an excuse for any behavior. For example, I've taught a number of students that made up conditions for themselves right at the moment their homework was due.

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