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Space Plane: Mysterious US military aircraft launches

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Re: Space Plane: Mysterious US military aircraft launches

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Post by whoopdedo »

willart4food wrote: post #50
CapitalistCartr wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comes from the military budget; they can light Cuban cigars with hundred dollar bills as a rounding error. The US Navy has 11 large fleet aircraft carriers, 9 assault carriers, when the rest of the World considers two carriers to be a lot. Schools hold bake sales to buy supplies, the Pentagon/The Congress spends a Trillion USD on a new manned fighter we don't need just to shovel pork into as many Congressional d…

This and similar mission are not NASA missions but USSF's missions (United States Space Force), and USFF is part of the United States Armed Forces, different budget: Sources: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-37#Operational_histor... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Force

I'll never get used to that "Starfleet" logo. I don't suppose Viacom/CBS would be able to sue the Dept. of Defense for copyright violation?

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Post by chiph »

mhh__ wrote: post #15
shockinglytrue wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the frequency and consistency of narrative with which it appears in the press, at this stage I'm convinced it's an empty UAV used entirely for some marketing purpose

It's spending months in space, I don't think it's for marketing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j56s46e97Lo Based on what this talk indicates, the US Government is doing some questionable (...) things in terms of signals intelligence in space. We probably won't know what X37-B is doing in space for years but I imagine they will have at least tried to do some big brother exercises. The US/Western Intelligence communi…

It's a resupply mission for Hugo Drax and Drax Industries. /s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Drax

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Post by russli1993 »

all the money on military, and not in investing in healthcare, improve public health responses, increasing financial reward for the front line workers that are sacrificing themselves for the greater society. In my opinion, this is sad. I would rather have this money being written as a check to every nurses and doctors served in COVID19.

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Post by ethbro »

chrisseaton wrote: post #12
shockinglytrue wrote: post #3

The press around the X-37B continues to perplex, it's particularly disappointing to see this "super secret but let's talk about it constantly" article using the word "very" 3 times. I think it was drilled into me by the age of 12 to avoid "very" in written English in order not to obviously oversell, and yet here it is from a professional writer working for the BBC

In general the BBC prioritises simple writing, a reasonably low reading level, and common words to make it as accessible as possible. They don't pay much attention to ideas of artistic writing and they aren't looking to use a different adverb or adjective every time for the whimsical sake of it. It's a public news service, not a mid-atlantic magazine.

The best news choice I made, as an American, was to get my primary news through foreign outlets.

Because generally, they don't really care enough to implement systemic bias about another country.

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Post by waheoo »

russli1993 wrote: post #53

all the money on military, and not in investing in healthcare, improve public health responses, increasing financial reward for the front line workers that are sacrificing themselves for the greater society. In my opinion, this is sad. I would rather have this money being written as a check to every nurses and doctors served in COVID19.

I dont disagree that we spend too much on defense but the idea that we should stop all spending on science to help out some nurses is super strange.

Its akin to saying we should stop funding nasa be ause who needs space travel.

Also please stop glorifying a set profession as some kind of ulturistic calling. Theyre in it for the money and prestige, and frankly, wouldnt be there otherwise.

If you want to thank someone, thank the delivery guy, the supermarket clerks, the flight attendants, or the casual staff out of the job right now.

These people are feeling the brunt of this. These people are the front line.

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Post by swebs »

whoopdedo wrote: post #51
willart4food wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This and similar mission are not NASA missions but USSF's missions (United States Space Force), and USFF is part of the United States Armed Forces, different budget: Sources: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-37#Operational_histor... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Force

I'll never get used to that "Starfleet" logo. I don't suppose Viacom/CBS would be able to sue the Dept. of Defense for copyright violation?

If they could, they would have done it 40 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Space_Command

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Post by kube-system »

ethbro wrote: post #54
chrisseaton wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In general the BBC prioritises simple writing, a reasonably low reading level, and common words to make it as accessible as possible. They don't pay much attention to ideas of artistic writing and they aren't looking to use a different adverb or adjective every time for the whimsical sake of it. It's a public news service, not a mid-atlantic magazine.

The best news choice I made, as an American, was to get my primary news through foreign outlets. Because generally, they don't really care enough to implement systemic bias about another country.

That's quite a broad brush to paint with. There's plenty of bias in media around the world, and more than a few examples are even more systematic than what we see in the US.

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Post by dpcan »

mschuster91 wrote: post #45
awinder wrote: post #22

One day after https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/12617475806665523... can’t be a coincidence right

What in the name of all that's holy did I just watch?

Something the President of the United States of America retweeted.

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Post by pengaru »

mhh__ wrote: post #33
pengaru wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not convinced. I forgot the exact numbers but when I was trying to look at studies 5G alarmists cite* with an open mind some Energy Densities in question (being applied to animal subjects) were stronger than standing in front of one of those enormous ballistic missile tracking phased arrays (Which given the subject of this thread are also used for tracking satellites) Thank you for implicitly putting me in the…

It's an extremely inefficient weapon, is my point. Sending energy from orbit to earth sufficiently strong to kill someone would need something like thousands of gigawatts as a point source I think

> Sending energy from orbit to earth sufficiently strong to kill someone would need something like thousands of gigawatts as a point source I think

It doesn't need to kill people to have utility as a weapon.

Just look at how the unexplained alleged "sonic attacks" on the US embassy in Cuba played out.

I also presume there's potential for damaging sensitive electronics.

I'm not in objection of any of this, it's a military mission in nature. It just seems obvious to me that anything capable of beaming useful amounts of energy from space to power drones or anything portable on earth also has potential for direct use as a weapon. The energy density must be relatively high for things having such limited area to collect it.

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Post by grecy »

russli1993 wrote: post #53

all the money on military, and not in investing in healthcare, improve public health responses, increasing financial reward for the front line workers that are sacrificing themselves for the greater society. In my opinion, this is sad. I would rather have this money being written as a check to every nurses and doctors served in COVID19.

I genuinely believe that if Americans knew what the rest of the Developed world gets for it's tax dollars vs. what Americans have to put up with for their tax dollars, they would riot in the streets.

There's a very good reason the major news outlets in America never directly compare America to other Developed countries, and only ever compare it to undeveloped or "evil" countries (China, Sudan, Iran, Russia).

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