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It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Post by andai »

pembrook wrote: post #15

The reason RSS failed to reach mainstream adoption by users is because it is not user friendly at all. While I love RSS myself, no amount of tech nerd nostalgia is going to make it popular enough that your mom starts using it. Most sites still have implemented RSS in a terrible way. For example, many blogs I follow only show excerpts in their feeds. So the feed is worthless to me. Others put every podcast episode the…

> actually finding the feed on each website you visit

The site should just have
Does that not work anymore? Or sites don't include it? I haven't used RSS in a few years.

Back when the address bar had an RSS icon in it, this is how it got the info.

Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Post by jay_kyburz »

ddevault wrote: post #201

Feedly seems nice but it's a total non-starter due to the lack of an email-based signup. I have none of the social media accounts it wants you to log in with and it'll be a cold day in hell before I share that much personal information with an RSS reader anyway. But a brief reading of the privacy policy will tell you that Feedly is a data hoarder and has every intention of selling that information: https://feedly.com…

Feedly has email sign up. The button is labelled "login with Feedly" instead of Login with Google ect.

Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Post by [deleted] »

xmprt wrote: post #208
aiilns wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right now the top reply's first sentence is this: > Maybe the world needs an unmonetizable space. I have noticed that people in hackernews generally tend to look things from a, excuse me for saying so, narrow business "make money" perspective. Or maybe it's somewhat US related, I'm not sure. There are thousands of sites that don't live from advertising. Government, universities, and every public or even private insti…

I do a lot of things for free because I have the luxury of a job that pays well. Not everyone has that kind of freedom and if someone wants to put food on the table, then money has to be a factor. Otherwise you'd lock a lot of things to only people who have extra time to take risks on activities that won't get them anything in return. Saying not everything should be about money is a pretty privileged position.

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Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Post by wmeredith »

xmprt wrote: post #208
aiilns wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right now the top reply's first sentence is this: > Maybe the world needs an unmonetizable space. I have noticed that people in hackernews generally tend to look things from a, excuse me for saying so, narrow business "make money" perspective. Or maybe it's somewhat US related, I'm not sure. There are thousands of sites that don't live from advertising. Government, universities, and every public or even private insti…

I do a lot of things for free because I have the luxury of a job that pays well. Not everyone has that kind of freedom and if someone wants to put food on the table, then money has to be a factor. Otherwise you'd lock a lot of things to only people who have extra time to take risks on activities that won't get them anything in return. Saying not everything should be about money is a pretty privileged position.

This threshold has been measured. Everything stops being about money when household income hits about $70k-90k. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-exactly-how-much-m...

Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Post by ddevault »

akerl_ wrote: post #207
ddevault wrote: post #201

Feedly seems nice but it's a total non-starter due to the lack of an email-based signup. I have none of the social media accounts it wants you to log in with and it'll be a cold day in hell before I share that much personal information with an RSS reader anyway. But a brief reading of the privacy policy will tell you that Feedly is a data hoarder and has every intention of selling that information: https://feedly.com…

Given that one of the options for Feedly is “Continue with Feedly”, which offers a “sign up” option where you provide a name, email, and password, I’m not sure what you mean about forcing social media access.

Thanks, somehow I missed it. But with a privacy policy like that, I'm still a hard pass.

Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Post by peruvian »

aiilns wrote: post #193
DevX101 wrote: post #53

RSS is dying (or dead) because it was incompatible with the dominant business model on the internet -- advertising. This is why Google killed it. This is why lots of professional publishers hated it. With HTTP you'd be able to earn money via embedded ads but you'd earn exactly $0 via RSS since the feed was stripped of ads, just content. This forced publishers to put useless blurbs, redirecting to the HTTP version, wh…

Right now the top reply's first sentence is this: > Maybe the world needs an unmonetizable space. I have noticed that people in hackernews generally tend to look things from a, excuse me for saying so, narrow business "make money" perspective. Or maybe it's somewhat US related, I'm not sure. There are thousands of sites that don't live from advertising. Government, universities, and every public or even private insti…

This website was started by a venture capitalist firm and its original name was "Startup News". The user base certainly reflects that.

Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Post by fomine3 »

Thristle wrote: post #16

After google reader went dark i used "The Old Reader" and when they moved to pay only (or they closed? i can't remember) i moved to inoreader its the only way i consume news/blogs. there is no way im checking 40+ websites every day for new content and that way i won't miss anything if a site has no RSS or its RSS feed doesn't work right chances are i just won't use that site

I like Inoreader and pay for it. I hope their business is sustainable.

Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Post by SllX »

naniwaduni wrote: post #152
Closi wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's both factually and theoretically correct - the UK has left the EU, but laws are extended until the transition period is over. Note the absence of the UK in the below sources: https://www.gov.uk/eu-eea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_state_of_the_European_U...

It is theoretically correct. The factuality is the point under dispute...

Well maybe there’s one way to resolve this dispute?

Did the UK MEPs serve their last day already?

Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Post by nl »

zrail wrote: post #176
zelly wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Micropayments have been tried. They all failed. The fair market price for content is $0. What is happening is that the only publishers that will exist shall be only those who create it for free. There is simply a glut of content out there because the barrier to creating content is completely gone.

The legions of small publishers making a living on substack beg to differ.

1) Subscription is not the same thing as micropayments (as they are commonly understood)

2) It's pretty unclear to me that Substack actually lets "legions" of writers make a living. https://substack.com/discover lists the top (income making?) writers, and it drops off very quickly. By number 25, it is "hundreds of subscribers" paying $10/month. That's a nice hobby income but isn't really "a living".

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