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It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Post by ddevault »

Feedly seems nice but it's a total non-starter due to the lack of an email-based signup. I have none of the social media accounts it wants you to log in with and it'll be a cold day in hell before I share that much personal information with an RSS reader anyway. But a brief reading of the privacy policy will tell you that Feedly is a data hoarder and has every intention of selling that information:

https://feedly.com/i/legal/privacy

$6-$18/mo should be fucking enough for a service to keep my goddamn information to themselves.

I'm using FeedReader[0], but I'm not especially happy with it. Would love to hear some more recommendations.

https://jangernert.github.io/FeedReader/

Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Post by mememem »

There are several nice apps for RSS feeds, but unfortunately, the low support on OS level makes RSS comfortable for geeks but not for ordinary people, who now mainly consume content in Twitter and Facebook whose feeds btw is a centralized and more comfortable version of their ancestor - RSS.

Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Post by CuriousSkeptic »

carapace wrote: post #160
DevX101 wrote: post #53

RSS is dying (or dead) because it was incompatible with the dominant business model on the internet -- advertising. This is why Google killed it. This is why lots of professional publishers hated it. With HTTP you'd be able to earn money via embedded ads but you'd earn exactly $0 via RSS since the feed was stripped of ads, just content. This forced publishers to put useless blurbs, redirecting to the HTTP version, wh…

I think you gotta connect the dots with UBI here. You wouldn't have to monetize if you didn't have to monetize.

While I agree with this take on UBI. There are middle grounds to explore.

The streaming and game services seems to point at monthly subscription fee from an aggregator as a working model. Not sure how they distribute royalties though, I suspect there are many models I won’t agree with based on what they incentivize.

Then there are the Kickstarter/patreon. Where money is given more in support than for a specific product. This is more like the UBI approach.

I think there is room for a hybrid approach here, merging the two.

Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Post by akerl_ »

ddevault wrote: post #201

Feedly seems nice but it's a total non-starter due to the lack of an email-based signup. I have none of the social media accounts it wants you to log in with and it'll be a cold day in hell before I share that much personal information with an RSS reader anyway. But a brief reading of the privacy policy will tell you that Feedly is a data hoarder and has every intention of selling that information: https://feedly.com…

Given that one of the options for Feedly is “Continue with Feedly”, which offers a “sign up” option where you provide a name, email, and password, I’m not sure what you mean about forcing social media access.

Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Post by xmprt »

aiilns wrote: post #193
DevX101 wrote: post #53

RSS is dying (or dead) because it was incompatible with the dominant business model on the internet -- advertising. This is why Google killed it. This is why lots of professional publishers hated it. With HTTP you'd be able to earn money via embedded ads but you'd earn exactly $0 via RSS since the feed was stripped of ads, just content. This forced publishers to put useless blurbs, redirecting to the HTTP version, wh…

Right now the top reply's first sentence is this: > Maybe the world needs an unmonetizable space. I have noticed that people in hackernews generally tend to look things from a, excuse me for saying so, narrow business "make money" perspective. Or maybe it's somewhat US related, I'm not sure. There are thousands of sites that don't live from advertising. Government, universities, and every public or even private insti…

I do a lot of things for free because I have the luxury of a job that pays well. Not everyone has that kind of freedom and if someone wants to put food on the table, then money has to be a factor. Otherwise you'd lock a lot of things to only people who have extra time to take risks on activities that won't get them anything in return. Saying not everything should be about money is a pretty privileged position.

Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Post by [deleted] »

ddevault wrote: post #201

Feedly seems nice but it's a total non-starter due to the lack of an email-based signup. I have none of the social media accounts it wants you to log in with and it'll be a cold day in hell before I share that much personal information with an RSS reader anyway. But a brief reading of the privacy policy will tell you that Feedly is a data hoarder and has every intention of selling that information: https://feedly.com…

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Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS

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Post by bhargav »

DevX101 wrote: post #53

RSS is dying (or dead) because it was incompatible with the dominant business model on the internet -- advertising. This is why Google killed it. This is why lots of professional publishers hated it. With HTTP you'd be able to earn money via embedded ads but you'd earn exactly $0 via RSS since the feed was stripped of ads, just content. This forced publishers to put useless blurbs, redirecting to the HTTP version, wh…

The protocols are designs as small layers and on top of one-another. I wouldn't expect a new protocol to be invented every year or even decades.

I think what you mentioned could be accomplished using existing protocols. There isn't a need for a new protocol for this specific purpose.

For this specific purpose, what if we just had personalized/signed RSS feeds per payer?

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