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Why is it unsafe in alameda but not in Fremont?
Fremont is in Alameda county.
What is different about the place Tesla is in rather than the place other factories are in?
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Why is it unsafe in alameda but not in Fremont?
Fremont is in Alameda county.
What is different about the place Tesla is in rather than the place other factories are in?
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The articles and their references don't quote any statute (the LADN has a list of defendants but no reference to criminal charges; the article specifies only that they are pursuing cutoff of utilities to those properties).
> the article specifies only that they are pursuing cutoff of utilities to those properties No, it doesn't. Here are some case numbers: https://www.lacityattorney.org/post/feuer-charges-10-more-al... Look up the criminal case summary using the case number: http://www.lacourt.org/criminalcasesummary/ui/index.aspx
No, it doesn't. Here are some case numbers:
You say "No", as if the article says otherwise, then quote a different source altogether. I was addressing specifically what the article did and didn't reference.Anyway, this confirms my earlier point about these articles not identifying a related state criminal statute.
These charges are from the L.A. Administrative Code, and there is a statute specific to Los Angeles:
"Sec. 8.77. Punishment of Violations. It shall be a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine not to exceed $1,000.00 or by imprisonment not to exceed six months, or both, for any person, during a local emergency declared pursuant to this chapter, to: ... 8.77(b). Do any act forbidden by any lawful rule, regulation, order or directive issued pursuant to this chapter, if such act is of a nature as to give, or be likely to give, assistance to any national enemy, or imperil the lives or property of other inhabitants of this City, or to prevent, hinder or delay the defense or protection thereof."
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> the article specifies only that they are pursuing cutoff of utilities to those properties No, it doesn't. Here are some case numbers: https://www.lacityattorney.org/post/feuer-charges-10-more-al... Look up the criminal case summary using the case number: http://www.lacourt.org/criminalcasesummary/ui/index.aspx
No, it doesn't. Here are some case numbers: You say "No", as if the article says otherwise, then quote a different source altogether. I was addressing specifically what the article did and didn't reference. Anyway, this confirms my earlier point about these articles not identifying a related state criminal statute. These charges are from the L.A. Administrative Code , and there is a statute specific to Los Angeles :…
Yes, because the article says otherwise.
> then quote a different source altogether
Yes, it's additional information because you're still not getting it.
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On Joe Rogan he said he was selling all his houses and will rent.
I only watched part of that interview, but it was cringeworthy how eager Joe Rogan was to try to impress him. He only seemed to agree with him that the response to COVID-19 is an overreaction without any pushback.
No matter what person he's interviewing, he manages to keep the conversation moving forward and the words flowing.
This is also his second interview with Elon Musk, and the first one probably led to billions of dollars in market swings wrt tesla stock.
and I wouldn't be surprised if the first interview probably gave him 10x the listeners.
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Fremont is in Alameda county.
Fine, I’m not intimate with local geography of California, you get the drift though. What is different about the place Tesla is in rather than the place other factories are in?
The public health measures in Alameda county that Tesla violated apply broadly to most businesses there. The fact that other counties in the US have different health measures doesn't mean that Tesla is being singled out.
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I agree it would be difficult to prove that they caught it at work, but saying they can catch it as easily at home just sounds like 'reopen' rhetoric to me.
I think it's best to look at individual facts and claims as they are, without reference to their attachment to some political side or movement. It frees your mind so you can more easily think for yourself.
Edit: I don't even understand why there are 'political sides or movements' to this in the US. I am in Australia where there has been broad cooperation between politicians and people of different political beliefs. It hasn't been perfect of course but for the most part we have been listening to the medical and scientific experts.
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The US debate on the quarantine measures is so polarized it's ridiculous. That's aggravated by the inequities of application in many areas, often rooted in underlying politics. To me, it's ridiculous to (true examples in my city) close the dog parks but allow the skateboard parks to operate... or allow hand to hand delivery of hard liquor while banning haircuts.
Really? Since we probably shouldn’t open everything at once, you can’t see putting the welfare of youth barely impacted by the virus over dogs? Or allowing brief contact over prolonged? Of course government wants those liquor taxes but that doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
youth barely impacted by the virus
Symptomatic youth are still at risk of serious complications[0], even more than adults are well into the forties. Youth are also far less likely to conform to distancing rules.Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's best to look at individual facts and claims as they are, without reference to their attachment to some political side or movement. It frees your mind so you can more easily think for yourself.
Alright, without any evidence to back it up there is no reason to believe that you are likely to catch covid at home as anywhere else. Edit: I don't even understand why there are 'political sides or movements' to this in the US. I am in Australia where there has been broad cooperation between politicians and people of different political beliefs. It hasn't been perfect of course but for the most part we have been lis…
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocki...
Elon Musk is the guy who bets his house at the roulette table. It’s been working out for him so far but one day he’s going to step into some shit his money can’t get him out of and it’s going to be entirely his own fault.
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Alright, without any evidence to back it up there is no reason to believe that you are likely to catch covid at home as anywhere else. Edit: I don't even understand why there are 'political sides or movements' to this in the US. I am in Australia where there has been broad cooperation between politicians and people of different political beliefs. It hasn't been perfect of course but for the most part we have been lis…
The evidence to back it up is there though. The majority (in fact 66%) of new COVID-19 hospitalizations in New York state recently have been people who have been staying inside their home. Based on data from a sample of 1,000 patients at 100 hospitals. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocki...