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Re: If I could bring one thing back to the internet it would be blogs

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I've got a blog but I haven't brought it back up: The reason is that our attention spans have lowered and outside Hacker News, there isn't a lot of people willing to read up opposing or interesting views, or detailed descriptions of things - or what people feel when they go around their lives.

Re: If I could bring one thing back to the internet it would be blogs

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This article makes... no sense to me. Blogs are still around, everywhere, and show up easily in search results if a post matches a relevant query. And bloggers still list other blogs in sidebars. I genuinely don't understand the author's complaint. The only thing I can imagine is that there are a lot more alternatives for self-expression on the internet now, e.g. Instagram, Twitter, podcasts, etc. So blogs are perhap…

It’s not something most people care about anymore, and it was nice when it was.

More people in total care about it now than ever before. It's just not as large of a percentage of the overall web as it was.

So longer form blogging on a unique site [yourname.com or wordpress.yourname.com] didn't grow as quickly as posting pics on Titter/IG/Snap etc...

That makes sense to me, most people aren't putting effort into writing.

Re: If I could bring one thing back to the internet it would be blogs

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Blogs and forums stopped being a thing when Google flushed them out sometime between 2009-2012 (with the Panda update? I'm not an SEO guy so I wasn't really following it at the time). Anyway, it felt like a bunch of places went from having active communities to stagnating or dying outright overnight. People forget just how much general innovation was being driven by these sites - Styleforum and AskAndy for men's fash…

This is exactly right. I had a blog for many months, shared it from my website and social media accounts, and it never showed up in Google search. After a couple months of speaking to an audience of 20 people, I decided it wasn't worth it. Meanwhile everything else I have tried shows up on the first page of results: Facebook page, Twitter account, Soundcloud, etc. Google heavily biases their results to two things: th…

I've been thinking. It might be an interesting experiment to build an "average" search engine. Put average websites first. Drop down websites that get too popular.

Re: If I could bring one thing back to the internet it would be blogs

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I’m not sure if the premise is correct here. What metric is Reddit being judged by? What if the various fashion subreddits, in aggregate, have more users, more content (both good and bad), and more innovation than websites like AskAndy? I suspect what you’re looking for is: 1. The intimate small town feel of the early internet, and 2. The higher average post quality (because of the type of person that both had intern…

> The higher average post quality (because of the type of person that both had internet and used forums back then) as measured by intellectuality, domain specificity, and demonstrated expertise. But this should be easy to get back in the same way blogs always did -- have individual blogs. Even if there are now a million blogs full of "noob spam" the good ones should still exist because their authors are the same peop…

While the discoverability issue may have accelerated the decline of blogs, I suspect that it’s not the main problem. It takes more cognitive overhead to follow and visit multiple blogs as opposed to following multiple subreddits. Even if you are willing to expend that cognitive overhead, most people aren’t nowadays. Because of that, bloggers are less likely to publish (smaller audience + less engagement = smaller incentive to publish). That lowers the average quality of blogs, turning away even their most ardent advocates.

This was all inevitable. The mere existence of a popular meta-forum attenuates traditional blogs and forums.

Re: If I could bring one thing back to the internet it would be blogs

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Blogs and forums stopped being a thing when Google flushed them out sometime between 2009-2012 (with the Panda update? I'm not an SEO guy so I wasn't really following it at the time). Anyway, it felt like a bunch of places went from having active communities to stagnating or dying outright overnight. People forget just how much general innovation was being driven by these sites - Styleforum and AskAndy for men's fash…

I think Reddit getting big also killed a lot of the old forums. The frictionlessness of joining a community made it hard to compete. And the general lack of personality to user profiles in Reddit avoided the "cool kid's clique" issue that happens with a lot of forums where everyone knows each other. I remember in the "dying days" of some of the forums I was on the conversation had largely devolved into reposting and…

> I remember in the "dying days" of some of the forums I was on the conversation had largely devolved into reposting and discussing memes and things that were happening on Reddit.

I get the same sad feeling from Sasha Chua's weekly Emacs News these days, where half of the entries are now links to posts on Reddit's r/emacs. You can see the dwindling of any diverse ecosystem for discussion.

Re: If I could bring one thing back to the internet it would be blogs

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I think there could be more fun and experimental content on the web. I'm working on a side project called https://taaalk.co , where people have long and continuous text based conversations. Please check it out if you're looking for something new on the web. (Feedback welcomed)

Seems clickbaity to me, but i can expand my feedback if you want.

Re: If I could bring one thing back to the internet it would be blogs

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RSS is truly a blessing, and it's such a shame that the side effect of Google is to essentially corrupt a vast portion of the internet such that most of the stuff you see and read has the sole purpose of pleasing the search engine, not the reader. That relationship is the wrong way round. I'm just re-setting up my own blog (to complement a Youtube channel). Without designing one from scratch (with a static site gener…

Whatever you do, just don't use Medium. Ghost or Hugo (With Netlify, https://gohugo.io/hosting-and-deployment/hosting-on-netlify/ ) are both very low effort solutions and most of them come with themes that don't look too bad from the get go. It's very quick to get something up and running even though it's technically a static site generator.

Those are nerd only solutions. If anything will have mass market appeal and actually catch on with experts that are not nerds, it can't be nerd only.

Re: If I could bring one thing back to the internet it would be blogs

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If I could take two things away, it would be upvotes and targeted advertising. They allow for manipulation of the new commons and the societies of the people therein. The manipulation existed before, but not in such an effective way. US army in Eglin, various Russian bot farms, and effective private firms are open to deep-pocketed millionaires. There must be a way that's /less/ open to manipulation. Or at least a way…

I mean you're free to start a site with neither upvotes nor targeted advertising... And while I'm sure you'll find an audience, the vast majority of the population enjoys upvoting, and actually prefers targeted adverts over untargeted ones.

I doubt anyone enjoys targeted advertising. Any slim benefits it brings comes with the huge disadvantage of mass emotional manipulation for political ends.

Upvoting is a difficult one. Undoubtedly it's enjoyable. But given enough money and time any private or public organisation can game it for the same political ends.

If you can use targeted mass advertising to play on people's fears or give the illusion of group acceptance, then you have an incredibly powerful tool, and especially so in a democracy.

Re: If I could bring one thing back to the internet it would be blogs

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I’m curious. Have any company or anyone implemented something like this? Basically let people blog and let author themselves pay (instead of being paid by ads) subscription fee to pay cloud machine that hosts their content. I think something does exist in Ethereum platform but why it doesn’t exist out there anywhere else.

LiveJournal has worked this way for decades and still exists.

And DreamWidth.org does LJ better in every way.
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