Should assisted death/suicide be legal? • Hacker News Board

Re: Should assisted death/suicide be legal?

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Post by dang » Sat, May 16, 2020, 5:58 PM UTC

paulcole wrote: post #32

meiraleal wrote: post #29

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The experience is always changing. If you cross the same bridge twice, at the second time the experience is not the same, as you are not doing it for the first time. So if the experience is changing and you are equally suffering, you are not learning with life, that's a mistake that lots of people do. Suicide is not a solution.

Are you kidding me? You’re willing to say that to someone who lives with an incurable and life-altering disease that I fucking hate? I cross the same bridge every day. When I get up. When I go to bed. When I’m asleep and every moment in between. My suffering is because I’m not learning with life? That’s my mistake ? And that it’s not a byproduct of something 100% out of my control? No offense, but that’s pretty fucki…

Please don't post flamewar comments to HN regardless of how provocative some other comment was. It only makes the thread even worse.

I've replied to the other user elsewhere, who has been breaking the site guidelines even more in this thread than you did, but two wrongs don't make a right.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Should assisted death/suicide be legal?

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Post by meiraleal » Sat, May 16, 2020, 8:19 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #49

meiraleal wrote: post #47

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And looks like you are looking for validation? Can you please define intolerable pain so we discuss it with facts? Please describe a situation that encompass the main chunk of the population, not a "intolerable pain" that only 1% of the people suffer. I'll not formulate my opinion based on the suffering of 1% of the population.

Please stop using HN for flamewar. You've been gratuitously provocative in this thread, which is a fancy way of saying trolling. I'm not saying you meant to at all—but we have to judge this by effects, not intent: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... Any internet discussion that degenerates to "Can you please define" and "Please describe a" has left the path of curious conversation. Also, p…

That's not a fair point. He made a question, I gave my answer, he thinks I should agree with him and that went down the road because I have no obligation to agree with him. Why the reason to ask then? A Show HN might work better.

Re: Should assisted death/suicide be legal?

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Post by b_t_s » Mon, May 18, 2020, 4:39 PM UTC

abellerose wrote: post #39

b_t_s wrote: post #38

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> Did I understand this wrong? Yes, this is a misunderstanding "I think almost nobody would argue that depression should qualify you for assisted suicide".....because everybody would argue that you should see a psychologist, get your depression treated, and go on to live a long and happy life.

I know some persons go on to take their life after suffering depression for majority of their life. I'm unsure if people should take the stance of discriminating one illness compared to another because it may not always be treatable in the sense of being tolerable for one person compared to another.

Well the fact that they took their own life shows that they didn't need assistance. And I'm not necessarily saying never under any circumstances, just that there should be some safeguards around assisted suicide for "generally treatable" conditions....counseling, several attempts to treat, etc. Something beyond "Doc I'm feeling really down, can you give me an injection of cyanide."