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Under AI’s Watchful Eye, China Wants to Raise Smarter Students (2019) [video]
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
The headbands were handled via a partnership with Zhejiang Brainco Technology Co Ltd. so donation is far from the right word to use. One of their partner's cofounders is also a Harvard PhD holder so it's hardly a case of the Chinese company just being there to take up space as is often claimed around here. This is a donation in the same way that lots of large American companies are Irish. And the objections from pare…
> The headbands were handled via a partnership with Zhejiang Brainco Technology Co Ltd Which I guess is a subsidiary of the US-based company BrainCo located in Massachusetts. The article describes the provisioning of the headbands as a donation, which I guess makes sense if you're a startup and you want to test a pilot program in a market that might be receptive to your product. The fact that Chinese parents protest…
“ a much more nuanced picture than "it's a dictatorship with no free press and human rights"“
You should assume this is the case about everything that you have only read about without having long time personal experience. What we hear in the media about other countries or times in history is often basically a caricature of a reality that is way more complex and subtle than we usually are told. This is certainly true for China but also true for things like the Nazis or living under communism.
Reality is way more complex than we have time to learn.
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#43To be honest, few today are educated. The most favorable characterization is that we're putting the youth though a mill that produces semi-technically savvy savages. That fact that so few people with diplomas (of which I am one) fail to see that is because they haven't the slightest clue what being educated means. Also, fallacy of sunk costs (that piece of paper was rather expensive and time consuming).
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#44This is probably just research from some institution. Why the WSJ generalize and say that "Under AI’s Watchful Eye, ---> China They should rephrase it into something like "Research tries to find if..." I trust western media the same as Chinese media... (Edit: format)
> media the same as Chinese media
Not quite. Western media lies because they want to earn money and survive.
Chinese media lies because they are government controlled and the CCP propaganda arm has a well planned communication strategy to steer public opinion in the desired direction. Both in China and worldwide.
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#45as an autodidac that did extremely poorly in school, but flourished when people FINALLY left me alone and let me concentrate on what I am interested in: I could not imagine what kind of hell this would be. For a lot of the population School sucks and is a waste of time.
I had good teachers who just let me sit at the back of the class and work at my own pace, they would mark any work that I handed in.
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#46I remember reading this in 2019 even before I ever noticed(2019) is a part of the title. The tech antagonized me by a lot, to my belief, the attempt went way way beyond necessary evil and also scented of scam. This is disgusting, it's narrated by a curious young male voice, explaining how the device is working on himself, his classmates, and how the teachers and others will know then their attention is drifting away from the class. This shouldn't happen, I can't even imagine how they got their IRB approval in the first place. Collecting and using EEG data from a consented subject for a scientific investigation is one thing, but using a poorly designed toy to regulate human behavior is another. The former one has an explicit scope that helps the human race to understand itself, but the later one is an onset of nefarious control freaks en masse that targeting not only your body, but also your mind.
Btw as a previous research assistant who spent 5+ years in brain imaging, the tech behind this also looks weird to me, you can't get meaningful EEG data in a room with so much interference. I don't see any follow-ups on this either. It usually takes 2 painful hours, give or take, to properly prepare ONE subject for an EEG experiment, and 15 minutes at least after that for them to wash off the glues on their head.
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#47The design is ironically could be seen as an anology to one of the most famous novels in Chinese history of all time - 'The Journey to the West'[0].
In the novel, the monk Sanzang has a golden ring on one of his disciples - Wukong's head, and it was used for causing extreme headaches with a spell, in order to control Wukong to follow his will because he is smart but violent, and IMO sounds like an ADHD guy.
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#48as an autodidac that did extremely poorly in school, but flourished when people FINALLY left me alone and let me concentrate on what I am interested in: I could not imagine what kind of hell this would be. For a lot of the population School sucks and is a waste of time.
Same feeling here. My gpa in college was absolutely abysmal, but I've since sold a startup, and working on deep tech right now. School really measures nothing but how good you are at adhering to protocol.
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#49It seems "1984" and "Brave New World" came with a bit of delay. First rule of abstraction, whenever you abstract something you loose intrinsic value. Why is "concentration" favouritised? What about other brain states. I am afraid this experiment is wrong as much as it can get, what we believe we become. So I can easily imagine, kids that deals with emotional issues of tyrant parents, and then get double punished beca…
I thought concentration was weird too. I've had a few EKGs and they don't read anything above the noise when I'm doing simple math (which is what they ask most people to do). So I just started coming up with really difficult problems for myself to do and bingo, they can read activity again. This leads me to believe that if someone is performing well but concentration is in the noise or low, that you would want to instead push them to new topics, not punish them. Giving this data to parents seems like a bad idea because of this. You already know material well, so while the teacher is discussing it you drift off or your brain doesn't have to work hard to take information in. Parents see low concentration so get mad because you aren't using your time in school wisely (which is true, but not your fault). You then score low on tests because of the stress. Cycle repeats.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Professors themselves are often optimizing their content for testability, rather than for providing actual, functional lifelong knowledge. Hah! I think you have this backwards. Most professors are quite concerned about imparting knowledge when the vast majority of the students simply want a piece of paper with the University's logo on it. I knew of very few professors in electrical engineering or computer science w…
The choice of using the word professor, seems misleading to me. Far more often teachers will adjust their content to ensure optimal performance in tests. Especially in a education system like this. I can only imagine what side effects this must have for motivation. When you are cautiously trying to appear focused, can you even develop a passion for a subject?
Oh, you mean high school.
In the US, at least, the answer is actually "Yes. You can even develop a passion for a subject and instill it into your students."
My father taught English almost 4 decades in a very rural school. No Child Left Behind had him quite concerned intially.
Until it came down ...
He laughed at it. "Flag poor students early"--okay, his grades were in Excel since he was terrible at math--sort, print, tell administrators to go away. "Need writing samples"--"I have two entire filing cabinets of writing assignments for this years classes. Which drawers do you want?"
Now, I have to avoid generalizing. My father did not teach in an inner city school (the area had brutal poverty--but probably less crime) where they were continuously under threat of being forced closed by the government. He also did not teach in China or South Korea where getting the piece of paper seems even worse than the US.
However, the US isn't as brutal on the "teach to the test" fronts as many other places.