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How Apocalyptic Is Now?

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Re: How Apocalyptic Is Now?

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Always amuses me how the apocalypse of Inidgenous Americans never seems to make the cut...

amuses?

I doubt the op meant in a pleasurable sense.

What's the saying? History is written by the victors? I don't think there will ever be a reconciliation in history for the elimination of native peoples across two continents.

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Russian civil war was also the result of the 400 years of continuous tsarist expansion (among many other reasons); absorbing that much occupied land from baltics to pacific, and a lot of diverse people should be hard.

dramatically the ruling family (romanovs) among the 3 most successful expansionist dynasties next to english & spanish were totally annihilated at the end by their own people.

Re: How Apocalyptic Is Now?

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Interesting predictions. However, they do not fit the facts on the ground, at least here in Poland, which is some weeks ahead of the US with respect to the development of the epidemic.

(I'm relieved that) people have gotten sick and tired of the restrictions, about 50% (and growing every day) are not wearing the masks inside anymore, or bother with the distancing, despite official requirements. All restaurants and bars are opening up on Monday, my favourite one described the prior atmosphere as a "psychosis of fear".

It's interesting what happens when the second wave of infections occurs, which is becoming more and more likely. It's hard to imagine the population will be as fearful and obedient as the first time, should the government try to impose another lockdown.

If, as Nassim Taleb believes, the lockdown was bottom-up, demanded by the people rather than imposed by the government, a repeat seems unlikely. Perhaps that's why the stock market is surging?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

amuses?

I doubt the op meant in a pleasurable sense. What's the saying? History is written by the victors? I don't think there will ever be a reconciliation in history for the elimination of native peoples across two continents.

In a thousand years it will just be described as ‘a migration’.

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Always amuses me how the apocalypse of Inidgenous Americans never seems to make the cut...

amuses?

Obviously not in a pleasurable way.

It's disheartening / devastating / infuriating that the genocide of 120-40M people barely pierces the consciousness of the dominant culture when talking about apocalypses or genocides...

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Always amuses me how the apocalypse of Inidgenous Americans never seems to make the cut...

Winners don't talk about the people they murdered to win. Same thing about Australia, Canada and less so New Zealand.

It is also hilarious that the USSR is the only country apart from Japan to successfully industrialize and avoid a colonial genocide from a Western power.

If you could pick a place to live being a Russian in Moscow 1919 would give you a much better chance of surviving compared to being an Indian in Manhattan in 1624, Toronto in 1787 or Melbourne in 1835.

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