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Amazon is handing out 'Thank you' t-shirts to warehouse workers as it cuts pay

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Re: Amazon is handing out 'Thank you' t-shirts to warehouse workers as it cuts pay

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Post by WilliamEdward »

zpeti wrote: post #7

I’m genuinely interested in what people who think of amazon as an evil company think it should do. It hardly ever makes a profit. Any profit it makes is from AWS usually. It is popular because it’s so cheap, which is why people buy there. So really the solutions can only be: 1. Raise prices and consumers suffer 2. Keep wages low and workers suffer 3. Stop existing. I wonder how many people who complain about amazons…

It is ridiculous that you've boiled it down to those two options. The 3rd is cutting executive salary and paying low wage workers. Also amazon is not cheap compared to my local competitor and aliexpress, people buy from amazon because of convenience.

And amazon makes profit on non-AWS products as well, don't be silly. I can literally google their financial statements to prove this.

Re: Amazon is handing out 'Thank you' t-shirts to warehouse workers as it cuts pay

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Post by partyboat1586 »

deadgunslinger wrote: post #15
partyboat1586 wrote: post #3

Reminds me of the weekly clapping for the NHS here in the UK when what they really need is a pay rise and PPE supplies. Sometimes thank you is not enough. In the case of Amazon this seems much more sinister and cult like. I struggle to believe that any of the warehouse workers buy into it.

Do you believe permanently raising wages to offset black swan events such as the COVID-19 epidemic is a wise move? What about the next black swan event? Are they going to be paid enough then or they'll need a pay rise again? Healthcare professionals are paid much more compared to the average UK citizen. Especially doctors, the average pay (100k pounds) is in the 2% of the earners. Emigrant doctors couldn't even dream…

I meant nurses (and other underpaid NHS workers) not necessarily Doctors sorry if I didn't make that clear.

Re: Amazon is handing out 'Thank you' t-shirts to warehouse workers as it cuts pay

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Post by hutzlibu »

deadgunslinger wrote: post #15
partyboat1586 wrote: post #3

Reminds me of the weekly clapping for the NHS here in the UK when what they really need is a pay rise and PPE supplies. Sometimes thank you is not enough. In the case of Amazon this seems much more sinister and cult like. I struggle to believe that any of the warehouse workers buy into it.

Do you believe permanently raising wages to offset black swan events such as the COVID-19 epidemic is a wise move? What about the next black swan event? Are they going to be paid enough then or they'll need a pay rise again? Healthcare professionals are paid much more compared to the average UK citizen. Especially doctors, the average pay (100k pounds) is in the 2% of the earners. Emigrant doctors couldn't even dream…

I asume when we are talking about "underpaid health care workers" we are not talking about doctors, but nurses.

But both deserve bonus crisis.

Re: Amazon is handing out 'Thank you' t-shirts to warehouse workers as it cuts pay

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Post by zpeti »

ccthr wrote: post #9
zpeti wrote: post #7

I’m genuinely interested in what people who think of amazon as an evil company think it should do. It hardly ever makes a profit. Any profit it makes is from AWS usually. It is popular because it’s so cheap, which is why people buy there. So really the solutions can only be: 1. Raise prices and consumers suffer 2. Keep wages low and workers suffer 3. Stop existing. I wonder how many people who complain about amazons…

it makes no profit yet Bezos is the richest man in the world by some margin? How can you buy into that narrative. The no profit book keeping is just a way to avoid paying tax. As a shareholder I would rather see them pay fairer wages, be taxed appropriately and have a slower rate of growth. If the cost of scaling at the speed they scale comes from unethical business practices then the answer is to scale slower, not e…

I’m not buying into anything but investors are. Amazon isn’t profitable. It’s not to avoid paying tax, it’s to reinvest. And because investors don’t care about profits in amazon it makes bezos the richest man. This doesn’t have anything to do with my initial comment though. Amazon is cheap because it pushes costs down in every area. Including workers. And consumers like that.

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Post by kalleboo »

zpeti wrote: post #7

I’m genuinely interested in what people who think of amazon as an evil company think it should do. It hardly ever makes a profit. Any profit it makes is from AWS usually. It is popular because it’s so cheap, which is why people buy there. So really the solutions can only be: 1. Raise prices and consumers suffer 2. Keep wages low and workers suffer 3. Stop existing. I wonder how many people who complain about amazons…

Is Amazon really that cheap? I live in a different market from the US, but Amazon is usually cheap but rarely the cheapest. But they are a one-stop shop for everything, they already have your credit card number, and you know what you’re getting in terms of shipping speed/return policy. They’re more convenient than cheap.

Re: Amazon is handing out 'Thank you' t-shirts to warehouse workers as it cuts pay

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Post by econcon »

zpeti wrote: post #7

I’m genuinely interested in what people who think of amazon as an evil company think it should do. It hardly ever makes a profit. Any profit it makes is from AWS usually. It is popular because it’s so cheap, which is why people buy there. So really the solutions can only be: 1. Raise prices and consumers suffer 2. Keep wages low and workers suffer 3. Stop existing. I wonder how many people who complain about amazons…

Amazon atleast in India is not the cheapest option.

I usually buy stuff from Chinese e-commerce websites where you can find things much cheaper.

Re: Amazon is handing out 'Thank you' t-shirts to warehouse workers as it cuts pay

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Post by Broken_Hippo »

econcon wrote: post #20
pwdisswordfish2 wrote: post #5

I’ve said it before and I won’t tire of saying it: »Gut, das ist der Pfennig! Und wo ist die Mark?« https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ihb2XqEsa4g The same bullshit is happening everywhere. In the German Bundestag MPs gave standing ovations for care workers. Meanwhile those continue to slave away for pennies, now more precariously than ever, while the next items on the MPs agenda are bailouts for airlines and fucking car ma…

How many Germans actually work in healthcare? Doesn't healthcare in Germany constitute very large portion of immigrants workers?

Why does that make a difference?

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Post by lostlogin »

partyboat1586 wrote: post #22
deadgunslinger wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you believe permanently raising wages to offset black swan events such as the COVID-19 epidemic is a wise move? What about the next black swan event? Are they going to be paid enough then or they'll need a pay rise again? Healthcare professionals are paid much more compared to the average UK citizen. Especially doctors, the average pay (100k pounds) is in the 2% of the earners. Emigrant doctors couldn't even dream…

I meant nurses (and other underpaid NHS workers) not necessarily Doctors sorry if I didn't make that clear.

The sentiment was entirely clear.

Re: Amazon is handing out 'Thank you' t-shirts to warehouse workers as it cuts pay

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Post by econcon »

Broken_Hippo wrote: post #27
econcon wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many Germans actually work in healthcare? Doesn't healthcare in Germany constitute very large portion of immigrants workers?

Why does that make a difference?

I am replying to

>Bundestag MPs gave standing ovations for care workers. Meanwhile those continue to slave away for pennies, now more precariously than ever, while the next items on the MPs agenda are bailouts for airlines and fucking car manufacturers.

Slaving away for pennies and immigrant workers, anything sounds familiar?

Re: Amazon is handing out 'Thank you' t-shirts to warehouse workers as it cuts pay

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Post by waschl »

I am trying to reduce my Amazon-usage to a minimum, which works better and better. Only feature which is left are actually the wishlists to keep track of my own desires and ideas for gifts to others. Anyone knows a good alternative for any kinds of goods, which integrates with all kinds of online shops? I live in Germany.
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