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Under AI’s Watchful Eye, China Wants to Raise Smarter Students (2019) [video]

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In addition to grades, these headband readings add additional pressure to kids. Forcing kids to improve their grades at the cost of their mental health is unacceptable.

> Forcing kids to improve their grades at the cost of their mental health

This sounds like the status quo of many educational systems worldwide. It's very depressing to me. Obviously some countries are worse than others, but even the US isn't great compared to say, Nordic countries.

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Training kids like this reminds me of training AI itself:

Make the reward getting a better grade and the kid will only optimize for that. Eventually the kid (the agent) will be out in the wild and they will have a weak understanding of what the reward is and how to optimize for it (it will be harder for a fine-tuned kid to do domain adaptation towards different and more abstract fields and problems).

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as an autodidac that did extremely poorly in school, but flourished when people FINALLY left me alone and let me concentrate on what I am interested in: I could not imagine what kind of hell this would be. For a lot of the population School sucks and is a waste of time.

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It seems "1984" and "Brave New World" came with a bit of delay. First rule of abstraction, whenever you abstract something you loose intrinsic value. Why is "concentration" favouritised? What about other brain states. I am afraid this experiment is wrong as much as it can get, what we believe we become.

So I can easily imagine, kids that deals with emotional issues of tyrant parents, and then get double punished because they were dealing with those emotions.

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post #7

as an autodidac that did extremely poorly in school, but flourished when people FINALLY left me alone and let me concentrate on what I am interested in: I could not imagine what kind of hell this would be. For a lot of the population School sucks and is a waste of time.

I have the exact same feeling. I'm not sure how well these will work, but if the person isn't comfortable, it only leads to mental health issues later on on life.

School is tough enough to begin with. I can't imagine how much more difficult and stressful it will be for these kids.

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post #5

Training kids like this reminds me of training AI itself: Make the reward getting a better grade and the kid will only optimize for that. Eventually the kid (the agent) will be out in the wild and they will have a weak understanding of what the reward is and how to optimize for it (it will be harder for a fine-tuned kid to do domain adaptation towards different and more abstract fields and problems).

There’s another side to this issue too: Professors themselves are often optimizing their content for testability, rather than for providing actual, functional lifelong knowledge.
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