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Patio11's perspective on the Japan Earthquake

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Re: Patio11's perspective on the Japan Earthquake

#11
English-language reporting on the matter has been so bad that my mother is worried for my safety.

I can believe it.

So, on the one hand, it often seems like HN spends way too much time absorbed with inside-baseball conversations on the design of social news. How do we keep social-media communities intelligent and informative? How do we prevent them from being constantly trolled, dominated by sugar-coated memetic fluff (e.g. "things on fire"), spammed by marketers, or deliberately hijacked by paid sockpuppets, fanatical propagandists, and well-funded PR campaigns? We go on and on about this stuff, routinely.

But on the other hand, we worry about these things because they are important, and because we still haven't done enough. Especially in the USA, our failed media infrastructure is a very big problem. It creates an environment where everyone is either perpetually ignorant or perpetually afraid, or both, and it fuels random acts of sabotage and irrationality, and it serves as a constant drag on our civilization's energy. So when, as an engineer, I think about ways to advance my favorite design and engineering projects - smart civic design, renewable energy, robotic exploration of space, cheap and widespread applied genetics, popular appreciation of science, promotion of the creative arts - it always seems to come down to education and information. Here we have an example: Why, in a world where we can build a global information system like this one, must patio11, with obvious reluctance, spend so much time restating the obvious? (And, indeed, he must spend this time, because the alternative is that many of our friends, and relatives, and especially our parents run around like Chicken Little.)

Re: Patio11's perspective on the Japan Earthquake

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I hate to be -that- Greek, but the word typhoon in English is arguably either Greek or Arabic in origin. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=typhoon May the mocking commence.

Well, you learn something new every day. (The Japanese word, borrowed from Chinese, sounds like "taifuu.")

Re: Patio11's perspective on the Japan Earthquake

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I hate to be -that- Greek, but the word typhoon in English is arguably either Greek or Arabic in origin. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=typhoon May the mocking commence.

Interesting. The OED suggests that the word may have been borrowed into English three times, with the forms then converging, and settling on a Greek-transliteration type spelling. The three lines they trace are: 'typhon' from Greek, circa 1550s; 'touffon' or 'tufan' from Portuguese circa 1580s, via Urdu, possibly originally from Greek or Arabic; and 'tuffoon' or 'tuffan', from Chinese 'tai fung', circa 1700. It's possible the spelling is mainly from Greek, while the usage and modern meaning is mainly via a separate borrowing.

Re: Patio11's perspective on the Japan Earthquake

#17
This is a great write-up, thanks Patrick. Very much agreed about the hyperbolic news coverage, my Mother called me at 3am to warn me that a giant tsunami was about to hit San Francisco (where I live). Human engineering really prevailed this time. Still, shockingly sad to see videos like this:

http://ow.ly/4dvh0

Re: Patio11's perspective on the Japan Earthquake

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I hate to be -that- Greek, but the word typhoon in English is arguably either Greek or Arabic in origin. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=typhoon May the mocking commence.

Interesting narrative of the different originations.

http://books.google.com/books?id=sMiRc-JFIfMC&pg=PA141&#...

Re: Patio11's perspective on the Japan Earthquake

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Thank you, patio11. I saw this on Twitter and read half of it with my mouth hanging open. (Somewhat related: this great post by Makiko Itoh http://makikoitoh.com/journal/memorable-tweet-japan-earthqua... ) I can't help but think what a disaster of this scale would look like in almost any other country but Japan. Checklists at almost every level of response is unimaginable in most countries I know (though maybe Singap…

I can't help but think what a disaster of this scale would look like in almost any other country but Japan

Probably might look like the 2010 Haitian earthquake or the 2004 Indian ocean earthquake/tsunami

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_ocean_earthquake

Re: Patio11's perspective on the Japan Earthquake

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There is a bit of overlap here with my comments on HN the last couple of days. I've had to explain it to 100+ friends, family, customers, clients, etc, so I figured I might as well polish it and put it somewhere public. At the risk of stating the obvious: I am not "HN's Japan Guy." There are many, many HNers in Japan. A few dozen of them make it out to the Tokyo meetups. There are many, many perspectives on this disa…

excellent post and exactly what i suspected.

i think the news should steer back to the middle east and libya in particular right now; thats where things hang in the balance and can impact billions of lives.

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