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Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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Post by sjroot »

ckolkey wrote: post #52
Stoner wrote: post #17

Hey everyone, my team is in Mozilla's ”fix-the-internet” MVP Lab right now. We're working on Vngle, a decentralized grassroots news network combatting news deserts across America. We're working in Georgia now and will be moving to other states soon. Sign up to stay updated at Vngle.com or follow us on social @VngleStories. https://www.instagram.com/VngleStories/

Really trying to be constructive here: consider investing in one or two more vowels. The "vn" is...rough.

Looks to be a play on the word “Angle” - in the context of news, this is the point you’re trying to convince your readers of. “What’s your angle?”

Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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Post by [deleted] »

austincheney wrote: post #55
pwdisswordfish2 wrote: post #43

The internet could be "fixed" by regulating advertising. In the beginning there were rules. No commercial use. When that was lifted we started the descent into where things are now. It began with a lawyer posting an ad about immigration services to Usenet. It has come a long way since then. All the while, the web browser has supported always advertising, making it easier and easier to consume ads, buy and sell via th…

That, historically speaking, is not enough. People will find a away to screw up advertising, whether intentionally or not, so long as there is revenue to earn. Perhaps things have gotten better but when I used to dig into that code for work some years ago it was near negligent incompetent. If you are going to recommend regulation the only thing that works, as exemplified by every other profession, is credentials: lic…

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Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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Post by nixpulvis »

Can someone please sue Apple for anti-trust violations on the grounds that forcing me to copy and paste all my fucking links instead of setting a default browser on iOS is a direct attack on health competition in the web browser space?!

The fact that this issue has gone unresolved for this many years is completely unacceptable.

Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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Post by na85 »

reggieband wrote: post #60

This is completely tangental but I think it is wrong to see the internet as needing another feature in order to be complete. I think we really need a ground up re-think of data. I remember diligently cataloging my movie preferences in LoveFilm, a UK Netflix competitor (when Netflix was a movie-by-mail company). I think I rated thousands of movies. I did the same in Netflix, certainly hundreds of films before they cha…

>Re-thinking data isn't the kind of thing a startup can do. I think we need to find legal mechanisms to really force companies to make data available to the originators of that data. IMO, that is the only way we salvage the Internet.

You are completely correct, but unfortunately it's not fun and quite frustrating to work with government, and you're competing with lobbyists that Facebook and Google have a financial interest in supporting.

It's a lot easier and more glamorous to just throw some JavaScript at the low-hanging fruit.

Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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Post by burkaman »

cousin_it wrote: post #44
pwdisswordfish2 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://wiby.me

Very cool! Though it seems more like a hand-picked directory than a search engine with a crawler, as it doesn't find quite a few good noncommercial pages that I know exist.

Looks like pages have to be submitted here to be included: https://wiby.me/submit/

Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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Post by cameronhowe »

Stoner wrote: post #17

Hey everyone, my team is in Mozilla's ”fix-the-internet” MVP Lab right now. We're working on Vngle, a decentralized grassroots news network combatting news deserts across America. We're working in Georgia now and will be moving to other states soon. Sign up to stay updated at Vngle.com or follow us on social @VngleStories. https://www.instagram.com/VngleStories/

"Fix the internet" then links your instagram. Seems like you are part of the problem?

Edit: Or maybe I have a very different view of what fixing the internet means. The peertube content sponsoring currently on the frontpage seems much more constructive to me.

Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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Post by pwdisswordfish2 »

naasking wrote: post #48
pwdisswordfish2 wrote: post #43

The internet could be "fixed" by regulating advertising. In the beginning there were rules. No commercial use. When that was lifted we started the descent into where things are now. It began with a lawyer posting an ad about immigration services to Usenet. It has come a long way since then. All the while, the web browser has supported always advertising, making it easier and easier to consume ads, buy and sell via th…

> The internet could be "fixed" by regulating advertising. Regulation always requires coordination, which is simply not possible at internet scale. Facebook and Twitter can't even regulate the content on their own platforms, and you're talking about regulation at an even larger scale against strong interests with large financial reserves. What's needed is a secure/private by default browser sandbox so these interests…

HTTP

   printf "GET /gemini/gemini.circumlunar.space/servers/ HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: portal.mozz.us\r\nConnection: close\r\n\r\n"|socat - ssl:portal.mozz.us:443
Gemini

   printf "/servers\r\n"|socat - gemini.circumlunar.space:1965
However, he seems to have his server configured such that the full URL is required.

    printf "gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/servers/\r\n"|socat - ssl:gemini.circumlunar.space:1965
Other gemini servers on the list do not have that restriction.

Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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Post by jononor »

naasking wrote: post #48
pwdisswordfish2 wrote: post #43

The internet could be "fixed" by regulating advertising. In the beginning there were rules. No commercial use. When that was lifted we started the descent into where things are now. It began with a lawyer posting an ad about immigration services to Usenet. It has come a long way since then. All the while, the web browser has supported always advertising, making it easier and easier to consume ads, buy and sell via th…

> The internet could be "fixed" by regulating advertising. Regulation always requires coordination, which is simply not possible at internet scale. Facebook and Twitter can't even regulate the content on their own platforms, and you're talking about regulation at an even larger scale against strong interests with large financial reserves. What's needed is a secure/private by default browser sandbox so these interests…

We are somehow able to regulate consumer goods (health and safety standards for example), which also is a global operation involving hundreds of thousands of actors.

Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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Post by armyofbots »

cousin_it wrote: post #44
pwdisswordfish2 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://wiby.me

Very cool! Though it seems more like a hand-picked directory than a search engine with a crawler, as it doesn't find quite a few good noncommercial pages that I know exist.

I think humans are better at building such a thing if the aim is not gobbling up the entire web but only light websites that aren't commercial. I think that would be hard or impossible to automate. It definitely has an early 90's vibe in terms of results. Not terribly useful be but interesting nonetheless.

Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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Post by nine_k »

austincheney wrote: post #55
pwdisswordfish2 wrote: post #43

The internet could be "fixed" by regulating advertising. In the beginning there were rules. No commercial use. When that was lifted we started the descent into where things are now. It began with a lawyer posting an ad about immigration services to Usenet. It has come a long way since then. All the while, the web browser has supported always advertising, making it easier and easier to consume ads, buy and sell via th…

That, historically speaking, is not enough. People will find a away to screw up advertising, whether intentionally or not, so long as there is revenue to earn. Perhaps things have gotten better but when I used to dig into that code for work some years ago it was near negligent incompetent. If you are going to recommend regulation the only thing that works, as exemplified by every other profession, is credentials: lic…

If anything, this is one measure directly at odds with democratizing the Web.

You wrote a brilliant app but lack a license? No audience for you.

Also, if you have to produce an MVP to the same building code as a house with 50 years of expected use requires, this is death to all but exceptionally well-funded innovation.

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