Daily standups should be async
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Daily standups should be async
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Re: Daily standups should be async
#2But that's not what a 'daily standup' is supposed to be and the point is to get people together.
> "It’s clear how even though all companies say they “do agile”, in fact most don’t"
Well, indeed. That's why everything is called a 'daily standup' these days.
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#3Re: Daily standups should be async
#4Because of the confinement my team has switched to async standups to account for our varied work hours (people on kid duty, etc)
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#5That can't be async, because I need the other members of the team to answer.
The issue the author is addressing is that for some, this is wasted time. But a) that's why these meetings are short, thus the standing up part, and b) Usually it isn't but an opportunity for more seniors to chime in with suggestions.
Plus, stop with the "here's why" in your titles. I know you're going to tell me what you think, but that doesn't mean that you know THE TRUTH ABOUT WHY something important should be the way you think.
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#6The only value in a standup is when team members actually share ideas about what they're working on. The detailed conversation happens outside the standup, but the purpose of the standup is just to get that moment of "I know about that, let's talk".
In that case, having everyone in a room (real or virtual) at the same time is more efficient than asynchronous updates. With asynchronous updates, people are in meetings, in the bathroom, not online yet, etc, and you have higher coordination costs.
I've been on teams that have effective standups, and teams that have worthless ones. I know what each one looks like. But for the life of me, what I can't figure out is why some teams have good ones, and some don't.
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#7Counterpoint: In my experience, at synchronous standups, people totally ignore everyone until its their time to speak, and then share an update, and then go back to not listening.
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#8My other pet peeve for our standups was that they would not start on time. This was very common when I started on the team. After awhile I would just force the standup to start on time no matter how many people were there, even if I was the only one there :) After awhile everyone started getting there on time. I understood why people would arrive late since we were always starting late. An unvirtuous cycle so to speak.
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#9Re: Daily standups should be async
#10There is an ideal balance between fully async and going down a rabbit hole. A good standup will have feedback from others in the group, but it is important for everyone to know and respect time boundaries. One or two sentence interjections usually work great.
When you're giving updates as frequently as daily, a synchronous feedback loop is necessary for the information to be relevant. If I post in a slack channel that I am debugging issue X, and 2 hours later, someone posts that they dealt with X last week and has a solution for it, I've just wasted 2 hours of time.