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Re: US video game sales have record quarter as consumers stay at home

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While I don't agree with any attempt to see games as lower form of culture, I don't think that story telling/ narrative is something that games do well. I personally find narratives in games actually detract from the experience, and many games are better from having no or only minimal story built into it, and more like being sandboxes: -Cities: Skylines -Just Cause 2 -Prison Architect -Kerbal Space Program -Pool Nati…

I can offer some counters to that off the bat, Nier Automata, Deus Ex, Destiny, The Witcher, Stanley Parable, Undertale If anything I think games with the right attention can have better narratives than literature because they aren't limited to words in assisting the narrative with visualization and depiction of events / emotion. Much like pulp fiction and early sci-fi were treated as second class literature games ra…

From those I played Deus Ex (I decided to not play games anymore) and narrative in that rather average ordinary scifi book with rather normal storyline. I am not saying bad book, but it is not some kind of narrative masterpiece.

Re: US video game sales have record quarter as consumers stay at home

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Gardening, home improvements, personal or side development projects, exercise, online courses, playing music, etc. There are plenty of activities to do that moves one's life forward, rather than the utter stagnation that is television and video games. edit: To be clear, leisure activities definitely have their place. But to loosely paraphrase JC, while playing games is fine, it's much better to make them.

This comment being downvote is incredibly odd. Yes, I can confirm that there are plenty of activities programmer can do at home that are not gaming. Preferring gaming is one thing, getting offended over suggestion it is actually possible to be happy at home without gaming is ... odd.

Except the comment didn't just suggest alternatives, so don't pretend that's what it was downvoted for.

Re: US video game sales have record quarter as consumers stay at home

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Both are equivalent leisure time activities that I would never say improve your life as the OP claimed. They improve your life in so much the same way games do, leisure, so their comment is purely "I don't like them so they can't be good" which is complete crap.

I do think, say, acquiring the skill to play piano or guitar tolerably well gains one more general social standing (not just with a subset of gamers) than "I'm fairly good at Rocket League" and also builds a better understanding of music generally, which can be useful and/or pleasant, and gardening produces good food and also carries more social benefits than "I caught all the Pokemon". I'd agree they're not wildly b…

I think pursuing leisure for some end goal loses the point of leisure itself and is an unfortunate side effect of the times we live in.

That said I'm a workaholic with my job and 2 active projects outside of that who likes to lift and go outside so I can't really take fault with that mode of thinking since I've never quite captured my own idea of how I should be doing leisure.

Re: US video game sales have record quarter as consumers stay at home

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I hope there is a resurgence of couch co-op games after the lockdown. I have been playing a LOT of games, most of them of just mediocre quality, with my kids. Co-op makes mediocre games fun most of the time. I wish there were more options available for local co-op games.

PS: Don't try to play Outward with your novice gamer kids.

Re: US video game sales have record quarter as consumers stay at home

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I'd argue it's not just lockdown. This has been an epic release year: Animal Crossing, Half Life Alyx, Doom Eternal, Gears Tactics, Valorent, Sea of Thieves. And on and on. Paper Mario: Origami King trailer looks like so much fun there is no reason to leave the house this summer ;)

I'm sure it differs from company to company, but I work on the multiplayer servers at Jackbox games and it's very clear that people are playing a lot more than they were at this time period last year.

Re: US video game sales have record quarter as consumers stay at home

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post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do think, say, acquiring the skill to play piano or guitar tolerably well gains one more general social standing (not just with a subset of gamers) than "I'm fairly good at Rocket League" and also builds a better understanding of music generally, which can be useful and/or pleasant, and gardening produces good food and also carries more social benefits than "I caught all the Pokemon". I'd agree they're not wildly b…

I think pursuing leisure for some end goal loses the point of leisure itself and is an unfortunate side effect of the times we live in. That said I'm a workaholic with my job and 2 active projects outside of that who likes to lift and go outside so I can't really take fault with that mode of thinking since I've never quite captured my own idea of how I should be doing leisure.

> That said I'm a workaholic with my job and 2 active projects

I kind of dont see how you could play The Witcher while working overtime and having two side projects and going outside.

Re: US video game sales have record quarter as consumers stay at home

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post #128
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gardening, home improvements, personal or side development projects, exercise, online courses, playing music, etc. There are plenty of activities to do that moves one's life forward, rather than the utter stagnation that is television and video games. edit: To be clear, leisure activities definitely have their place. But to loosely paraphrase JC, while playing games is fine, it's much better to make them.

This comment being downvote is incredibly odd. Yes, I can confirm that there are plenty of activities programmer can do at home that are not gaming. Preferring gaming is one thing, getting offended over suggestion it is actually possible to be happy at home without gaming is ... odd.

It's obviously (and rightly) being downvoted because of how condescending it is to people who choose to spend any amount of their time with video games.

Re: US video game sales have record quarter as consumers stay at home

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I hope there is a resurgence of couch co-op games after the lockdown. I have been playing a LOT of games, most of them of just mediocre quality, with my kids. Co-op makes mediocre games fun most of the time. I wish there were more options available for local co-op games. PS: Don't try to play Outward with your novice gamer kids.

What do you recommend for co-op with kids?

Re: US video game sales have record quarter as consumers stay at home

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post #131
post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can offer some counters to that off the bat, Nier Automata, Deus Ex, Destiny, The Witcher, Stanley Parable, Undertale If anything I think games with the right attention can have better narratives than literature because they aren't limited to words in assisting the narrative with visualization and depiction of events / emotion. Much like pulp fiction and early sci-fi were treated as second class literature games ra…

From those I played Deus Ex (I decided to not play games anymore) and narrative in that rather average ordinary scifi book with rather normal storyline. I am not saying bad book, but it is not some kind of narrative masterpiece.

I can only speak to the reboot, and I found those fantastic, but we are now in the realm of opinion which ultimately is where the conversation is going to wind up anyway so I'm not going to push back on it just that we had different experiences.

Re: US video game sales have record quarter as consumers stay at home

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I hope there is a resurgence of couch co-op games after the lockdown. I have been playing a LOT of games, most of them of just mediocre quality, with my kids. Co-op makes mediocre games fun most of the time. I wish there were more options available for local co-op games. PS: Don't try to play Outward with your novice gamer kids.

What do you recommend for co-op with kids?

Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime.

Overcooked.

Overcooked 2

Up to 4 player Co-op. Incredibly fun games.

Source: I play co-op and versus games with my kids. We've incorporated casual video game play into our family time for the past few years.

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