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Re: TSMC Announces Intention to Build and Operate Advanced Semiconductor Fab in U.S.

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Post by baybal2 »

audunw wrote: post #301
type-2 wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russia took crimea without any issue. Do you really think anything will happen if china took taiwan by force? It's a matter of time before china takes taiwan.

Another aspect of Russia taking crimea is that the people living there to a large extent welcomed it. There are some that are pro-unification in Taiwan, but it's a minority. Most people are pro status quo, and the number that are for declaring independence is growing. The ruling party is very pro-independence (ideologically speaking, in practice they have to move slowly and maintain status quo to some degree), meanin…

> Another aspect of Russia taking crimea is that the people living there to a large extent welcomed it.

Man, are saying this in your right mind? Where do you read this stuff?

People there abandoned their property, and ran! This is what they did.

Nobody openly welcomed it in their sane minds, besides few thousands elderly ex-party members, and alt-right weirdos.

The fact that I hear sentiments like this in the West is the direct proof that Russian psyops truly work.

Re: TSMC Announces Intention to Build and Operate Advanced Semiconductor Fab in U.S.

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Post by baybal2 »

nabla9 wrote: post #283
evgen wrote: post #274

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As much as I like the Ukrainian people, no one cared about Crimea because it was of absolutely no strategic importance to anyone but Russia. Taiwan is critically important to the US. The US _will_ go to war to defend it, and China knows this.

The whole point of US Taiwan policy and the wording of US-Taiwan Relations Act is to make it sure that the US can refuse to war against China if it attacks Taiwan. US has treaties with South Korea and Japan that make it it clear that the US will defend them if they are under attack. The Taiwan treaty is worded in a way that US may provide assistance or limited support in a war.

> US has treaties with South Korea and Japan that make it it clear that the US will defend them if they are under attack.

A quadrilateral nuclear disarmament treaty with Ukraine the US has signed has even more explicit wording, yet...

Re: TSMC Announces Intention to Build and Operate Advanced Semiconductor Fab in U.S.

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Post by vincnetas »

audunw wrote: post #301
type-2 wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russia took crimea without any issue. Do you really think anything will happen if china took taiwan by force? It's a matter of time before china takes taiwan.

Another aspect of Russia taking crimea is that the people living there to a large extent welcomed it. There are some that are pro-unification in Taiwan, but it's a minority. Most people are pro status quo, and the number that are for declaring independence is growing. The ruling party is very pro-independence (ideologically speaking, in practice they have to move slowly and maintain status quo to some degree), meanin…

"Another aspect of Russia taking crimea is that the people living there to a large extent welcomed it"

Because those who have not welcomed Russians have disappeared.

Random link from google search: https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2014/12/disappear...

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Post by 101404 »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #315
Shivetya wrote: post #292

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Just a change in who is President is all that China is waiting for.

They've waited seventy years for the right president. How many more decades will they wait and how will they react when they discover the military can probably force any president's hand?

No, they didn't wait for the right president. The past 40 years, they developed economically and technologically.

It is only since Xi became president, that China feels confident to have a more assertive foreign policy.

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Post by audunw »

nabla9 wrote: post #256
Findeton wrote: post #251

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Why mention "mainland" China when Taiwan is an independent country?

Taiwan's official position is that there is only one China and Taiwan is the one. >[Taiwan] considers "one China" to mean the Republic of China (ROC), founded in 1912 and with de jure sovereignty over all of China. The modern-day ROC, however, has jurisdiction only over Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen and Matsu. Taiwan is part of China, and the Chinese mainland is part of China as well. Taiwan is de facto independent, not for…

There was just a proposed amendment which would change that. But it was withdrawn. Probably because they're worried about upsetting China too much.

The current government is very pro (formal) independence. But it's a bit hard to declare China and Taiwan to be seperate when China is threatening with invasion.

Re: TSMC Announces Intention to Build and Operate Advanced Semiconductor Fab in U.S.

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Post by typ »

baybal2 wrote: post #321
audunw wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another aspect of Russia taking crimea is that the people living there to a large extent welcomed it. There are some that are pro-unification in Taiwan, but it's a minority. Most people are pro status quo, and the number that are for declaring independence is growing. The ruling party is very pro-independence (ideologically speaking, in practice they have to move slowly and maintain status quo to some degree), meanin…

> Another aspect of Russia taking crimea is that the people living there to a large extent welcomed it. Man, are saying this in your right mind? Where do you read this stuff? People there abandoned their property, and ran! This is what they did. Nobody openly welcomed it in their sane minds, besides few thousands elderly ex-party members, and alt-right weirdos. The fact that I hear sentiments like this in the West is…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea#Politics

Not sure how accurate it is though.

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Post by pauljurczak »

baybal2 wrote: post #321
audunw wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another aspect of Russia taking crimea is that the people living there to a large extent welcomed it. There are some that are pro-unification in Taiwan, but it's a minority. Most people are pro status quo, and the number that are for declaring independence is growing. The ruling party is very pro-independence (ideologically speaking, in practice they have to move slowly and maintain status quo to some degree), meanin…

> Another aspect of Russia taking crimea is that the people living there to a large extent welcomed it. Man, are saying this in your right mind? Where do you read this stuff? People there abandoned their property, and ran! This is what they did. Nobody openly welcomed it in their sane minds, besides few thousands elderly ex-party members, and alt-right weirdos. The fact that I hear sentiments like this in the West is…

Do you mean Russian ethnic majority inhabiting the Crimea for over a century now, abandoned their property, and ran?

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Post by nabla9 »

baybal2 wrote: post #322
nabla9 wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole point of US Taiwan policy and the wording of US-Taiwan Relations Act is to make it sure that the US can refuse to war against China if it attacks Taiwan. US has treaties with South Korea and Japan that make it it clear that the US will defend them if they are under attack. The Taiwan treaty is worded in a way that US may provide assistance or limited support in a war.

> US has treaties with South Korea and Japan that make it it clear that the US will defend them if they are under attack. A quadrilateral nuclear disarmament treaty with Ukraine the US has signed has even more explicit wording, yet...

The explicit wording states that in case violent action they would seek immediate Security Council action. That is toothless assurance when Russia is permanent member of security council.

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Post by pmachinery »

michaelt wrote: post #285
pmachinery wrote: post #237

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What did the US do to prevent Russia "taking out" Crimea that the cowardly rest of the world didn't?

Nothing - but Crimea is right on the EU's doorstep. Both Ukraine and Russia share borders with EU member states. If we EU member states didn't get involved when we saw a fight right in front of us, the threat of us getting involved in a fight thousands of miles away isn't very credible as a deterrent. More broadly, when I look at Taiwan I don't see the EU or US recognising Taiwan as a nation - let alone any tripwire…

> Nothing - but Crimea is right on the EU's doorstep.

So it's no further from US bases than EU bases.

> Both Ukraine and Russia share borders with EU member states.

And Russia is a two mile walkable ice bridge from the US in winter.

> If we EU member states didn't get involved when we saw a fight right in front of us, the threat of us getting involved in a fight thousands of miles away isn't very credible as a deterrent.

Distance isn't the issue. EU countries/NATO will bomb any puny country armed with obsolete weapons, wherever it is.

What the US and EU will never do is get into a fight with a nuclear armed superpower.

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Post by bsd44 »

type-2 wrote: post #257
_fq4v wrote: post #189

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> Never mind the civil unrest, the entire world would bail out of China. That is not clear.. at all. Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand -- the non-US western allies -- have all known exactly what China's end goal is and have down jack diddly squat to put pressure on them. The only thing preventing China from taking out Taiwan is the United States. Europe and the rest of the world is too cowardly to even do anythi…

Russia took crimea without any issue. Do you really think anything will happen if china took taiwan by force? It's a matter of time before china takes taiwan.

England stole Las Malvinas in 1982 from Argentina and nobody gave a damn. Funny how things work when it's "you" and not "them".
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