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The Supermicro H11DSi Motherboard Mini-Review: The Sole Dual EPYC Solution

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Re: The Supermicro H11DSi Motherboard Mini-Review: The Sole Dual EPYC Solution

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Post by metaphor »

First impression was single onboard VGA output and DE-9 serial port...typical enterprise.

Second impression was damn does that first socket look like a peripheral hog.

EDIT: Removed remark that erroneously referenced this comment[1] as a 2U chassis being applicable to the motherboard in question.

[1] https://www.anandtech.com/comments/15783/the-supermicro-h11d...

Re: The Supermicro H11DSi Motherboard Mini-Review: The Sole Dual EPYC Solution

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Post by LIV2 »

metaphor wrote: post #2

First impression was single onboard VGA output and DE-9 serial port...typical enterprise. Second impression was damn does that first socket look like a peripheral hog. EDIT: Removed remark that erroneously referenced this comment[1] as a 2U chassis being applicable to the motherboard in question. [1] https://www.anandtech.com/comments/15783/the-supermicro-h11d...

The VGA output would be part of the IPMI solution for remote management, serial would be for out of band management too. Both are useful if you don't want to drive to the datacenter

Re: The Supermicro H11DSi Motherboard Mini-Review: The Sole Dual EPYC Solution

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Post by robin_reala »

metaphor wrote: post #2

First impression was single onboard VGA output and DE-9 serial port...typical enterprise. Second impression was damn does that first socket look like a peripheral hog. EDIT: Removed remark that erroneously referenced this comment[1] as a 2U chassis being applicable to the motherboard in question. [1] https://www.anandtech.com/comments/15783/the-supermicro-h11d...

That’s a completely different chassis, as seen by the “Integrated Board: Super H12DST-B” photo. The review is of the H11DSi, which is designed for (big) tower cases.

Re: The Supermicro H11DSi Motherboard Mini-Review: The Sole Dual EPYC Solution

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Post by metaphor »

robin_reala wrote: post #4
metaphor wrote: post #2

First impression was single onboard VGA output and DE-9 serial port...typical enterprise. Second impression was damn does that first socket look like a peripheral hog. EDIT: Removed remark that erroneously referenced this comment[1] as a 2U chassis being applicable to the motherboard in question. [1] https://www.anandtech.com/comments/15783/the-supermicro-h11d...

That’s a completely different chassis, as seen by the “Integrated Board: Super H12DST-B” photo. The review is of the H11DSi, which is designed for (big) tower cases.

Thanks for pointing out that missed detail on my part.

Re: The Supermicro H11DSi Motherboard Mini-Review: The Sole Dual EPYC Solution

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Post by greendave »

This feels a bit like they just took an existing Intel design and tried to adapt it for AMD. Nothing wrong with that per se - by all accounts it's a good solid board - but it leads to weird choices like not using 56 of 64 PCIe lanes on the second CPU.

Re: The Supermicro H11DSi Motherboard Mini-Review: The Sole Dual EPYC Solution

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Post by p_l »

metaphor wrote: post #2

First impression was single onboard VGA output and DE-9 serial port...typical enterprise. Second impression was damn does that first socket look like a peripheral hog. EDIT: Removed remark that erroneously referenced this comment[1] as a 2U chassis being applicable to the motherboard in question. [1] https://www.anandtech.com/comments/15783/the-supermicro-h11d...

majority of BMC solutions default to VGA connection, and any good one will have a serial port - either DE-9 or RJ style.

It's much, much easier to standardize on VGA-based iKVMs than otherwise, and this drives the "let's use VGA" movement.

(Only real difference would be switching to DisplayPort, and this doesn't bring any benefits either...)

Re: The Supermicro H11DSi Motherboard Mini-Review: The Sole Dual EPYC Solution

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Post by metaphor »

p_l wrote: post #7
metaphor wrote: post #2

First impression was single onboard VGA output and DE-9 serial port...typical enterprise. Second impression was damn does that first socket look like a peripheral hog. EDIT: Removed remark that erroneously referenced this comment[1] as a 2U chassis being applicable to the motherboard in question. [1] https://www.anandtech.com/comments/15783/the-supermicro-h11d...

majority of BMC solutions default to VGA connection, and any good one will have a serial port - either DE-9 or RJ style. It's much, much easier to standardize on VGA-based iKVMs than otherwise, and this drives the "let's use VGA" movement. (Only real difference would be switching to DisplayPort, and this doesn't bring any benefits either...)

Completely aware of the enterprise implication, but it's somewhat of a disappoint that with all that peripheral support, they could have at least dropped a courtesy single link DVI-I interface instead. It just smells like a decision driven to explicitly avoid paying out licensing royalties.

Re: The Supermicro H11DSi Motherboard Mini-Review: The Sole Dual EPYC Solution

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Post by chx »

Anandtech.

I called this guy out on Twitter eventually challenging him to show me any article (in this PC area) of theirs and I will find mistakes. I offered my editorial services for one dollar. I've been, long ago, one of the editors of the largest computer monthly in Hungary and was on the editorial board. This wouldn't have been my first rodeo.

In this particular article there's not a lot of technical explanation so it's not easy to find a mistake but it's not so hard either: the GIGABYTE MZ31-AR0 is seriously outdated, they now sell the MZ32-AR0 which is now PCIe 4.0 and they missed from the list the Tomcat HX S8030 which is also PCIe 4.0. They did not, in fact, list any PCIe 4.0 boards. It's just sloppy.

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