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Google’s Quest to Build a Better Boss

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Microsoft learned this lesson a long time ago. In the old days of MSFT, the saying was that BillG believed that everyone's manager needed to be a better coder than him/her. The company learned eventually that the best engineers do not necessarily make the best managers and engineered the IC/manager split-career path that exists today. P.S I like how Google is finding out they're just the same as pretty much any other…

It may be a coincidence that Microsoft was dramatically more successful in those old days than it eventually became.

Microsoft is still dramatically successful today. The problem is that people perceive differences in success, not absolute numbers. So if you were wildly successful ten years ago and you're still wildly successful, what the hell have you been doing? Why haven't you improved?

The problem Microsoft is facing is that they basically accomplished their mission statement. "A computer on every desk, all running Microsoft software." That is an accurate description of the world circa 2000. What the hell do they do now?

Google is likely to face a similar problem in the next few years. "Organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." For all the flack they're getting lately, they've done a remarkably good job at it. People expect to have whatever information they need at their fingertips, and they get mad when they don't. You wouldn't see the vitriol toward bad search results that you do now if the Internet was like it was in 1998, because nobody really had an expectation that they'd be able to find what they were looking for then.

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I get to see companies of all sizes grapple with various problems and the most interesting thing I've noticed is that each company has a "culture" that influences everything it does. So if it's an insurance company, they're going to think in terms of risk and coverage. If it's a manufacturing company they're going to make decisions based on flow models and statistical process control. If it's an quasi-military organi…

"I can only imagine what it's like to work in a large-scale IT operation in the porn industry ;)" I've heard it's about the most unsexy thing ever. The technical aspects are all about shipping massive quantities of data cheaply and reliably. The, erm, video-production aspects are about presenting a picture that will satisfy customers and leave them coming back for more. In other words, it's pretty much like Google or…

The technical aspects are all about shipping massive quantities of data cheaply and reliably.

That rang a bell.

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Being there in the old days, I really liked two things. 1) Any question I had, someone could either give me the answer, direct me to the book (yeah, that long ago) that had the answer, or do the back and forth so I could figure out the answer with the knowledge I already had. 2) Rip the sh*t out of my code in a way that, while humiliating, made me a much better programmer. You went in thinking that you're the smartes…

> but while I was there, the mean IQ was 132 Only 132? Are you serious? How did the IQ-105 people get hired, and what were they doing — opening envelopes in the mail room?

This was also the time when the legendary "Microsoft interview" started coming together. I.e., you'd have an all-day interview with everyone on your prospective team (if you were targeting a particular position), and each interviewer would have one or two IQ-test questions and at least one whiteboard coding exercise.

People really went after the lateral-thinking questions and the estimation questions to find "smart" people. "How would you calculate how much rain falls in Washington in a day,"[1] "How many gas stations are there in (IYFStateOrCity)," and "How would you make a desk calendar with two cubes,"[2] were all fun ones.

Now, by making your questions similar to those on IQ tests, you select people who tend to do well on IQ tests. Funny, that.

[1] I got a boost on this one by spitting out,"weigh the clouds on their way in and out of the state," right away before building a slightly more feasible estimate. :-)

[2] The trick is just like the Jimi Hendrix song, if six was nine.

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Wow, they only just figured out that managers don't need to have a greater technical skill than those they are managing? I thought that was management 101?

Managing and engineering are 2 different skills. While managers benefit from technical knowledge it certainly doesn't need to be greater.

And with Marissa Mayers comments on Google wants to connect the real world to the digital world, where have they been. In case they weren't aware, internet connected appliances, location based apps, RFID, QR codes, mobile phones have been around for a little while now.

Google's search engine is great though slowly declining in quality but that is all they have been great at. Android is a decent mobile OS but it only received market pentration due to it's zero cost. Their social attempts have all failed. They only seem to get wide market adoption from free software or services, which I suppose they use to keep their search engine traffic high so they can maintain their advertising revenues.

They seem like a company unable to create another profitable software line.

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> but while I was there, the mean IQ was 132 Only 132? Are you serious? How did the IQ-105 people get hired, and what were they doing — opening envelopes in the mail room?

This was also the time when the legendary "Microsoft interview" started coming together. I.e., you'd have an all-day interview with everyone on your prospective team (if you were targeting a particular position), and each interviewer would have one or two IQ-test questions and at least one whiteboard coding exercise. People really went after the lateral-thinking questions and the estimation questions to find "smart"…

So you're saying the mean IQ at the time was so low because they hadn't started selecting for IQ yet?

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Reverse-engineering from the article, the original statistical result was probably something like, "Variations among managers in technical skill account for very little of the variations among managers in performance reviews." One way to get that result would be for technical skill to be unimportant. Another way would be for the variations in technical skill within the sample to be much smaller than other relevant va…

Right, I'm saying that the managers in charge of interpreting this data are undoubtedly aware of this effect, and so they're looking for those effects besides technical skill. It's like every Google manager already has an engine (they took care of that problem several years ago), now what can they do to make sure that there's always gas in the tank?

I was disagreeing with your comment, "it just said that it wasn't as important as some of the people skills." The article did say that, but the statistics almost certainly did not. I agree with your new comment.

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The story links to the 8 behaviors in the form of a JPG image, but I transcribed it to put in the HR section of our wiki. Thought someone else might want the plaintext version:

EIGHT GOOD BEHAVIORS

1. Be a good coach

- Provide specific, constructive feedback, balancing the negative and the positive.

- Have regular one-on-ones, presenting solutions to problems tailored to your employee's specific strengths.

2. Empower your team and don't micromanage

- Balance giving freedom to your employees, while still being available for advice. Make "stretch" assignments to help the team tackle big problems.

3. Express interest in team member's success and personal well-being

- Get to know your employees as people, with lives outside of work.

- Make new members of your team feel welcome and help ease their transition.

4. Don't be a sissy: Be productive and results-oriented

- Focus on what employees want the team to achieve and how they can help achieve it.

- Help the team prioritize work and use seniority to remove roadblocks.

5. Be a good communicator and listen to your team

- Communication is two-way: you both listen and share information.

- Hold all-hands meetings and be straightforward about the messages and goals of the team. Help the team connect the dots.

- Encourage open dialogue and listen to the issues and concerns of your employees.

6. Help your employees with career development

7. Have a clear vision and strategy for the team

- Even in the midst of turmoil, keep the team focused on goals and strategy.

- Involve the team in setting and evolving the team's vision and making progress toward it.

8. Have key technical skills so you can help advise the team

- Roll up your sleeves and conduct work side by side with the team, when needed.

- Understand the specific challenges of the work.

THREE PITFALLS OF MANAGERS

1. Have trouble making a transition to the team

- Sometimes, fantastic individual contributors are promoted to managers without the necessary skills to lead people.

- People hired from outside the organization don't always understand the unique aspects of managing at Google.

2. Lack a consistent approach to performance management and career development

- Don't help employees understand how these work at Google and doesn't coach them on their options to develop and stretch.

- Not proactive, waits for the employee to come to them.

3. Spend too little time managing and communicating

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It may be a coincidence that Microsoft was dramatically more successful in those old days than it eventually became.

Microsoft is still dramatically successful today. The problem is that people perceive differences in success, not absolute numbers. So if you were wildly successful ten years ago and you're still wildly successful, what the hell have you been doing? Why haven't you improved? The problem Microsoft is facing is that they basically accomplished their mission statement. "A computer on every desk, all running Microsoft so…

I think you may be underestimating the potential reach of Google's ambitions in the search space. Think of improvements in search in specific areas of knowledge. How about searching for flights? Well, they bought ITA software for that, probably because they wanted to get into that space. How about organizing books? Right, Google Books? Scientific papers, law information. The extent that searches and organizing information in various disciplines is virtually limitless. Then there are things like the semantic web. I would go as far as saying that almost any kind of problem solving humans do involves a form of 'search', and as these processes take advantage of the ever increasing information on the web, they will benefit from improved search techniques. To conclude and restate again, Google's objectives, IMHO, are extremely far-reaching.

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This was also the time when the legendary "Microsoft interview" started coming together. I.e., you'd have an all-day interview with everyone on your prospective team (if you were targeting a particular position), and each interviewer would have one or two IQ-test questions and at least one whiteboard coding exercise. People really went after the lateral-thinking questions and the estimation questions to find "smart"…

So you're saying the mean IQ at the time was so low because they hadn't started selecting for IQ yet?

Well, you also run into a practical testing ceiling. Most of the general purpose IQ tests (WAIS, Stanford-Binet) don't measure very accurately over 160. 132 as the mean of a set systemically limited to a maximum of 167 paints a different picture, not that I have a good handle on how many of us exceeded 160, especially across the entire campus.

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Google’s approach optimizes a sub-optimal model. A poor performer is less bad after a year of coaching. Our data show that talent occurs in predictable combinations, each combo in predictable frequency. Some combos DO NOT exist at all. The talents of great leaders (envision future, inspire followers) does not exist in the same person as a great manager (sees unique talents in others, applies and develops the talent, fosters purposeful collaboration). Google should have asked: What talents do our best managers posses? How do we find and develop more, faster? See http://methodteaming.com/did-google-miss-the-forest-for-the-...
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