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> Actual terrorists(like 9/11 type, well funded) know better than to even touch anything digital for comms Shit like this is said all the time on HN with absolutely nothing to substantiate it.
I do stats for a living, and while I think it's good to back up claims with data when possible, inductive reasoning is still a validate tool for understanding the world. The logic is that active, dedicated terrorist groups already know: "They literally get a drone strike for having called a known terrorist or for going to a wedding other terrorists with cell phones go to." The reasoning that knowing this information…
The claim directly conflicts with the supporting anecdote.
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#134Actual terrorists(like 9/11 type, well funded) know better than to even touch anything digital for comms. They literally get a drone strike for having called a known terrorist or for going to a wedding other terrorists with cell phones go to. For home grown terrorism, how many school shootings happen when the people who know the shooter literally tell police/fbi beforehand about the state of the shooter. Are school s…
Terrorists don't use cell phones because terrorists use cell phones?
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#135Groups that use terrorism to get their way almost always fail. This should not surprise us. Terrorism is the last available option for a weak interest group that has no better way to make their will felt. Therefore as scary as it is to face, the fact that they are resorting to it is evidence that they are underdogs and we should not be surprised that they later fail.
Given that fact, the extreme efforts that we take to drive the nail even farther into terrorism is overkill.
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#136A point from Enlightenment Now that I wish was better understood. Groups that use terrorism to get their way almost always fail. This should not surprise us. Terrorism is the last available option for a weak interest group that has no better way to make their will felt. Therefore as scary as it is to face, the fact that they are resorting to it is evidence that they are underdogs and we should not be surprised that t…
Totally untrue. When the US used atomic bombs to level cities in Japan, that was terrorism. The goal was to strike fear into the regime and the people for an unconditional surrender. It was not an attack against the military or government, it was an act of terrorism.
When the US uses drone strikes to blow up weddings, that's terrorism. They are not actively engaged in a military conflict, even if there is allegedly some 'terrorist' they are trying to kill.
The communist revolutions in various places heavily employed terrorism.
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
I do stats for a living, and while I think it's good to back up claims with data when possible, inductive reasoning is still a validate tool for understanding the world. The logic is that active, dedicated terrorist groups already know: "They literally get a drone strike for having called a known terrorist or for going to a wedding other terrorists with cell phones go to." The reasoning that knowing this information…
If terrorists know not to touch digital comms, then how would they get caught by being at a wedding with other terrorists with cell phones? Do terrorists use cell phones or not? The claim directly conflicts with the supporting anecdote.
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#138Committing the initial capital to form a FEC recognized national political party "The Privacy Party" to begin direct opposition to this and related activities. If you are interested in collaborating or learning more: https://theprivacyparty.org/
What is the purpose of this party given the Libertarian party already exists and has ballot access in all states?
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#139Actual terrorists(like 9/11 type, well funded) know better than to even touch anything digital for comms. They literally get a drone strike for having called a known terrorist or for going to a wedding other terrorists with cell phones go to. For home grown terrorism, how many school shootings happen when the people who know the shooter literally tell police/fbi beforehand about the state of the shooter. Are school s…
> Actual terrorists(like 9/11 type, well funded) know better than to even touch anything digital for comms. They literally get a drone strike for having called a known terrorist or for going to a wedding other terrorists with cell phones go to. Terrorists don't use cell phones because terrorists use cell phones?
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>Actual terrorists(like 9/11 type, well funded) know better than to even touch anything digital for comms Then why is terrorist content discussed so much in content moderation circles, specifically the fact that content moderators are viewing it so often it induces PTSD in them? ISIS has put out high definition videos of executions. That's the opposite of "not touching digital comms" https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/1…
They're not doing that to plan things, it's used intentionally for PR. Drive fear into those that watch it and recruit others who are excited. Pretty clear those are different.
The original incidents are terrorism, and the people doing them are targeted.