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Re: Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Americans’ browsing data

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No, it just puts your VPN provider in the position your ISP was in assuming they both keep similar records.

Well in that case, I would be OK since the VPN I use (ProtonVPN) doesn't keep any logs.

most VPN will tell you they don't keep log, which is probably not true

Re: Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Americans’ browsing data

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We can all sign for each other..

That doesn't work because you need signatures from within your congressional district.

Why is that a problem? Everyone can sign for each other within their congressional district...

Some districts can lead initially, the rest can catch on

Re: Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Americans’ browsing data

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This is just backwards. People in power should always have to justify their actions to us. Always. They should always be questioned. This (in theory) is how we ensure their power isn’t abused. We should have privacy while they do not. A lack of privacy should be a cost to the power they’re entrusted with. If it’s legal for them to sift through our lives while they refuse to be questioned, and they act insulted that w…

"People should not be afraid of their governments; governments should be afraid of their people."

100% agree that the tradeoff of power should be a loss of privacy.

Re: Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Americans’ browsing data

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post #156

This is just backwards. People in power should always have to justify their actions to us. Always. They should always be questioned. This (in theory) is how we ensure their power isn’t abused. We should have privacy while they do not. A lack of privacy should be a cost to the power they’re entrusted with. If it’s legal for them to sift through our lives while they refuse to be questioned, and they act insulted that w…

How senators voted:

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_...

Re: Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Americans’ browsing data

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post #273

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That doesn't work because you need signatures from within your congressional district.

Why is that a problem? Everyone can sign for each other within their congressional district... Some districts can lead initially, the rest can catch on

> Why is that a problem? Everyone can sign for each other within their congressional district...

You can generally only sign for one candidate per election.

Re: Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Americans’ browsing data

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But most ISPs will have DNS lookup records. Most users aren’t savvy enough to set their own DNS servers. I’m not sure on the current status of DNS over HTTPS, but I’d imagine .gov could just compel cloudflare or whoever to provide logs.

Do ISPs generally have DNS lookup past records? That seems like something that would be costly with little benefit. I run small ISP and only enable DNS logging when tracing some problem.

Large ones definitely do. There is lots of revenue generated from selling this data.

Re: Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Americans’ browsing data

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And where is Bernie Sanders? It passed by one vote. He missed it.

It's a pandemic, and as far as i remember they didn't finalise a rule to allow senators to vote remotely[1]. I don't know if this is why Bernie missed it, but 3 other senators besides him missed it too. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/techtank/2020/05/12/congress-...

What exemplary leadership.
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